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Post by josv2 on Mar 31, 2017 5:20:57 GMT
Hello again Edmond, I am asking about trauma purposefully inflicted and wiping the memory of such, also on purpose. Our experiences are similar, actually. I have only recently been assaulted with memories of worse trauma than I had flashes of throughout my life. I had assumed I was molested and tested upon, but now I feel I was purposefully traumatized in other, worse ways when I was a child. To some extent it seems the "shattering" is a normal byproduct of extreme trauma. The mind compartmentalizes such damaging thought forms to keep them from harming the body so it may continue. As for Jos' attitude - and please forgive me for speaking of you in the third person, Jos - of course he must be non-chalant to do what he does. I liken him to an overseer of slaves back in the 1800s in the American south. He is a slave too, and he is a victim likewise, but he has been put in the position of becoming a victimizer of his victim brethren - or suffer the consequences. He has been programmed to do what he does from an early age. If he did not, he would be dead by now most likely. So he chose to survive and cop to their world view. He posts to us to inform us and also to savor the piece of humanity that still resides in his heart. And yes, I am soft with Jos because I have been conversing with him for over a year, and he has helped me, but what is in it for him to do this? Truly? He only risks exposure. And thank you for sharing your story, Edmond. It is nice to know that there are others out there with similar experiences who are overcoming them. <3 Thank you Andrea <3. I have added some additional text in my post as it explains a little more about my recovering memories and what I think caused it (it is pretty wacky). I understand what you are saying about Jos. You are right. He is a slave too and has probably been victimized also. We all choose how we address this and I can still have some empathy, even for those, who choose making others suffer over their own suffering and potential demise. Not many choose to go against the beast and call them out for what they are. I am sorry Jos if I have offended you in any way. I know you are a human with a heart and feelings. Yet, the fact this stuff is allowed to continue is unacceptable. There is more to us than just this material life and a much longer journey for the soul. Peace y'all. No offense taken. Thank you for your participation in the forum.
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Post by josv2 on Mar 31, 2017 5:28:04 GMT
Also, something else I have pondered for some time is whether "asset-slaves" (as I call them) are moved into positions of "handler-slaves". Part of me feels like this is a progression or positioning that can occur when the asset-slaves value goes down in the areas desired (e.g., not producing the desired results anymore). It seems to explain somewhat why certain asset-slaves are killed off and why some are allowed to survive longer. Which this brings up more and more questions about even if we feel we are recovering, are we still just a tool being used at some level. I only mention this because I try to constantly stay aware of any tendencies I have that lean toward a "handling" one. I have certain traits and behaviours that suggest this possibility. I also have seen these traits expressed in others who are recovering from these sorts of traumas. I still lean towards and fall back upon...all will be as it should be if the heart is kept in the right place, though sometimes easier said than done. Also, if we cannot trust the "spiritual" world, then what can be trusted. All comes down to faith in the end to the best of my discernment. Much love. My experiences come from the military and from within the entertainment 'ministry'. I can say with certainty that there are no 'handler-slaves'. Rather there are 'preferred-slaves' (see Madonna). Often she is given access to others trigger mechanisms whether for its entertainment value or for more nefarious purposes. Assets are also often called upon to 'aid' in another's program. But keep this in mind: The great temptation of the helpless is power. One can't go through a program without gaining some insight into the human mind. This is a weapon of sorts, in the hands of every asset. The weapon is primarily useless against those 'aware', but to the unaware it is as dangerous in the hands of an 'asset' as it is the hands of a 'programmer', perhaps even more so.
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Post by Do you think on Mar 31, 2017 16:58:54 GMT
My experiences come from the military and from within the entertainment 'ministry'. I can say with certainty that there are no 'handler-slaves'. Rather there are 'preferred-slaves' (see Madonna). Often she is given access to others trigger mechanisms whether for its entertainment value or for more nefarious purposes. Assets are also often called upon to 'aid' in another's program. But keep this in mind: The great temptation of the helpless is power. One can't go through a program without gaining some insight into the human mind. This is a weapon of sorts, in the hands of every asset. The weapon is primarily useless against those 'aware', but to the unaware it is as dangerous in the hands of an 'asset' as it is the hands of a 'programmer', perhaps even more so. anyone should have anything to do with the entertainment industry that is not intimately related to the essence and spirit of artistry, creativity, entertainment, pure goodness themselves? Do you think its possible some of these less savory aspects are simply due to unworthy individuals, unworthy of experiencing goodness, and participating in the fruitful glories of the positivities of civilization, found themselves with access to power (in whatever form), and like a kid in a candy shop, perhaps even aware of their absolute unworthiness cannot help themselves but stuff their pockets, with as many treats as they can, to at least attempt to fool themselves and the public, to say, look at how full and golden my suit and pockets are, look at how good and worthy I am?
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Post by ^^^ on Mar 31, 2017 17:05:02 GMT
I suppose another way of putting that, should demons be in charge of running heaven? Says who, who's word are we taking?
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Post by ^^ on Mar 31, 2017 18:26:32 GMT
what is this, the talentless, worthless, placeholdery middlemen are placed on top, in control, of earths divine talent and art? What kind of shitlordedry is that, the trickle up economy, the shit and piss trickled up the leg of the sleeping giant and crept into its brain? all these horrific falsities and mistakes and fartific grumblings of oaferiaty, are due to clerical errors perpetuated by the sacred secretaries(?) of atrocity and treason?
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Post by or is the argument on Mar 31, 2017 18:28:09 GMT
Heaven could not be heaven without the values and ideals of the demons? Im listening.
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Post by to op, or main subject on Mar 31, 2017 18:35:29 GMT
even from reading some of the writings, it appears relative conclusions were made on the potential celebrities you work with, as well as you giving relatively conclusive info regarding your role in relation. If someone were to come across this info, how could the deuce no be de'd to be you?
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Post by ^ on Mar 31, 2017 18:55:01 GMT
all my remarks of course are meaningless and worthless if the stars in question, of their good mind and true accord enjoy and appreciate these circumstances. If they don't however, and then it must be asked, to what degrees, how might we imaginarily, theoretically, determine and compare the value, of the great and grandness of a single star of entertainment, compared to the totality of these black aetheric shadows which are warped to hoist them, in their presence of such orbs of brilliance and mass?
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Post by ^ on Mar 31, 2017 19:01:21 GMT
I just find the conclusion: a singer would not be able to sing, without being semi-severely fucked with hard to follow. Though perhaps its, not be able to sing as well. How negative is the fuckery, and how to define and determine such? Are the intentions good, what are the intentions? To create blinders as on a horse, to take away from distractions? To create a larger than life product, to have a recipe to create a continually golden egg laying golden goose, to create assurance and insurance in the strong continuity of this excellent entities excellent production? For that greater good? How negative are the negativities required to do that? How necessary are they? How much would, do the subjects mind? How worse might they be without the 'bumpers' on their lane? How pike laden are the bumpers, and how much must they be?
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Post by ^ on Mar 31, 2017 19:08:48 GMT
blinders to keep from distractions, but also to avoid 'existential crisis', cold feet, so to distract from the potential distractions that are the attempt to distract from distractions. So, to keep in a fantasy world, as to not question, 'what and why am I doing, who am I, how good is what I am doing...oh well, the show must go on, the show must go on...sex, drugs, rock and roll...buy buy buy...im better than the next, im better than the next.. please monkeys, whip my back, bet on the horse that is me..they really love me, they truly love me'. Yeah, ""great"" ""artist"", their fans. Millions of artists. Consumers. Market. Who will get the most fans, who will keep the most fans, how long, how many monkeys will try to ride the artists back?
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Post by ^ on Mar 31, 2017 19:15:31 GMT
(I suppose simply, salary answers the question of the relative value between star and some of the gasses needed to keep it alit)
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Post by ^ on Mar 31, 2017 21:24:49 GMT
How might your clients performance be different if there was noone fulfilling the role and its functions that you do? They might want to sing different songs? They might cancel a tour date here and there on a whim? They might get moody and not want to wear the pink dress at the photo shoot for whatever reason? They might eat one to many cheese doodles?
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Post by josv2 on Apr 1, 2017 2:51:38 GMT
My experiences come from the military and from within the entertainment 'ministry'. I can say with certainty that there are no 'handler-slaves'. Rather there are 'preferred-slaves' (see Madonna). Often she is given access to others trigger mechanisms whether for its entertainment value or for more nefarious purposes. Assets are also often called upon to 'aid' in another's program. But keep this in mind: The great temptation of the helpless is power. One can't go through a program without gaining some insight into the human mind. This is a weapon of sorts, in the hands of every asset. The weapon is primarily useless against those 'aware', but to the unaware it is as dangerous in the hands of an 'asset' as it is the hands of a 'programmer', perhaps even more so. anyone should have anything to do with the entertainment industry that is not intimately related to the essence and spirit of artistry, creativity, entertainment, pure goodness themselves? Do you think its possible some of these less savory aspects are simply due to unworthy individuals, unworthy of experiencing goodness, and participating in the fruitful glories of the positivities of civilization, found themselves with access to power (in whatever form), and like a kid in a candy shop, perhaps even aware of their absolute unworthiness cannot help themselves but stuff their pockets, with as many treats as they can, to at least attempt to fool themselves and the public, to say, look at how full and golden my suit and pockets are, look at how good and worthy I am? The toad wishes he had wings. The falcon wishes he could swim. I'd say you are spot on.
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Post by josv2 on Apr 1, 2017 2:56:51 GMT
How might your clients performance be different if there was noone fulfilling the role and its functions that you do? They might want to sing different songs? They might cancel a tour date here and there on a whim? They might get moody and not want to wear the pink dress at the photo shoot for whatever reason? They might eat one to many cheese doodles? It's true that artists are inherently flaky and a part of what I do is to ensure the 'best version' of the artist as determined from on high. But certainly the lion's share is control of narrative and message.
Understand that money is only a small concern for this anti-empyrean. Had they actually needed to focus on money, then they'd have little time for these games.
They don't like to waste money, but they won't be broken should an investment fail.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Apr 1, 2017 4:44:43 GMT
I was just thinking about how Coldplay recently released yet another hit. They've been so big for so long. That's a feat. Any opinions on why they've been so consistent?
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Post by Hell no on Apr 1, 2017 7:30:15 GMT
Are you people serious? This guy is so full of hot air. What a load of horseshit.
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Post by ^ on Apr 1, 2017 14:07:29 GMT
Understand that money is only a small concern for this anti-empyrean. Had they actually needed to focus on money, then they'd have little time for these games.
They don't like to waste money, but they won't be broken should an investment fail.
narrative and message being: have fun, dont worry, dance, party, be sad that your love broke your heart, dance, have fun, escape all your worries for a moment and listen to this song, and enjoy it, be happy, your worth it, enjoy my voice, everything is fine and ok, ok be sad because your love broke your heart, but you will find new love, keep being strong, keep searching, everything is fine and under control, the world is currently all ok and normal, and a paradise, keep dancing, go to work, dance, enjoy it, have fun, friends, search for your love, oh, another broken heart, its ok, be sad, then be happy. Well, might it not be that the, relatively fews desire for infinite money is not one of the stronger forces towards that anti-empyr you mention? Who can blame an individual for wanting infinite money, everyone sane should want infinite money, it is just that the 'sanity that is the sensicality that is reality', obviously cannot have every individual having infinite money, therefore, there are lines out the wazoos door, with clammering and stammering, stomping and stampeding, to try to make that cut, where there are the whirlpools of those potentials, to grab hold and harness the relatively, proverbial, free energy machine. They dont need to focus on money, at least the fewest of the few at the relatively top, but right after the tippy top, the pyramid begins to widen, and so on down the line, and everyone wants to move up. And if many on the top can never have enough, what might that say for those lower, and lower, who have nearly infinitely less. The biggest superstars, are not simply a matter of an investment, unless you are suggesting all superstars are owned by the same folks, to go back to my horse racing analogy, certainly those backing their own will care about their own winning, going back to my suggestion of likely not just a small few, having their stakes on the run. Though if ultimately, as may be true, and the essence of what is being suggested, the biggest superstars are, 'supported', by a singular, solitary, 'brotherhood', then yes, if a prize bred winner gets a bum leg, we can imagine it would not hurt the top too much to belch next man up. But ultimately, it is all about money, or pretty damn close to it, unless you want to suggest power, which then might be able to be argued is the same thing, but in those cases, as alluded to, its where collectivity really makes its meant of state, the powers of numbers with numbers. And of course the numbers can be big, but without intelligence and purpose, they may not have much power at all, as they could.
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Post by Jeff on Apr 1, 2017 14:26:59 GMT
I was just thinking about how Coldplay recently released yet another hit. They've been so big for so long. That's a feat. Any opinions on why they've been so consistent? their music is tuned to the satanic 440hz as to poison the ears and souls of all those in the shopping malls and supermarkets the world over
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Post by *** on Apr 1, 2017 15:24:44 GMT
Any opinions on why they've been so consistent? Sacrificing virgins and drinking dragon blood? Same reason Mozart and Beethoven were so consistent. Even if you didnt believe in conspiracies, and no conspiracies existed, and everyone on Earth was good natured, spirited, minded and hearted, likely, Artists would still exist, and try to create their good music, and likely, fans, would likely enjoy it.
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Post by vvv on Apr 1, 2017 15:44:58 GMT
Any opinions on why they've been so consistent? Sacrificing virgins and drinking dragon blood? Same reason Mozart and Beethoven were so consistent. Even if you didnt believe in conspiracies, and no conspiracies existed, and everyone on Earth was good natured, spirited, minded and hearted, likely, Artists would still exist, and try to create their good music, and likely, fans, would likely enjoy it. wheww, good thing I am practically the furthest thing from virgin, I always knew all those dicks would come in handy..well, not in handy, butt you get the picture, I always felt like there was some divine purpose to it all
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