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Post by Jos on Jul 16, 2016 3:58:56 GMT
Hello,
Let me begin by thanking our hostess for providing this forum for our discussions.
As many who will view this know, my name is Jos and I am an "illuminati Handler'. Obviously this is a bold statement that may require some clarity. When I say that I am an "Illuminati Handler" what I mean is that I contract for a clandestine conglomeration of 'entities', know as the Entertainment Ministry who in turn serve another conglomeration of businesses, estates, families, and individuals that comprise what many would call the "Illuminati'.
As a private contractor for such, I am not privy to all of the secrets and inner-workings of the aforementioned conglomeration (anyone who says they are on an internet forum is lying or trying to sell you something). I offer a view from within, the perspective of someone who knows some things and is the recipient of some very well-informed hearsay regarding others. As a part of the Entertainment Ministry, my area of expertise is the secret workings of Hollywood and beyond.
My work involves the psychological programming of celebrity clients utilizing a modern iteration of MK Ultra called Speculum. I began my career in Navy, was recruited to such work by a bloodline family, was introduced to this world as an assistant programmer (a handler) in American Football, and then began taking on my own clients. To date I have two, whom are really secondary to our discussion.
I will share anything that I feel is 'share-able', protecting only various proprietary modalities, and the identities of myself and anyone not involved in the public eye. I may be willing to verify someone's cooperation in the industry if I know or have heard something. I am willing to discuss my methods, the details of Speculum and especially to clarify misconceptions regarding 'our' work. Everyone has their 'pet theories' regarding the "Illuminati" and I may either confirm or refute those ideas.
I will not engage arguments regarding my credentials. I have no intention of attempting to 'prove' what is not provable nor do I intend to reveal my identity in any way. I also won't try to sell you something or get you to click on my website. I seek no credit for this intercourse of ours, I seek only the satisfaction of the social interaction in which, we shall hopefully engage.
Regarding my work, it is requisite that all people who spend an abundance of time utilizing a persona to gain following to undergo Mind Control Programming. This programming usually involves implanting a "Cognizant Dissociative Identity Disorder" (Multiple Personalities) within the client's (asset's) mind. This advanced DID is utilized for myriad purposes including performance enhancement and to act as a control mechanism among other purposes. It is my job to implant such in a client utilizing "Speculum" and to maintain this throughout the client's career through a process called "Shattering".
Before I take the first question (and continue the discussion with others), let me dispel a few things.
The Illuminati Is NOT: * Comprised of Aliens * Comprised Lizard People
* Comprised of Freemasons (or any particular religious or civic organization) * Magical (or any other form of Woo Woo)
My particular form of "Mind Control" is more akin to marketing than it is black magic. It is a science and as such, is bound by the precepts of the natural world. I look forward to fielding your questions.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 16, 2016 4:25:06 GMT
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 16, 2016 4:59:17 GMT
Something came to mind - so before I forget - can you explain the difference between natural and induced DID? What is the difference in how it looks in a patient/subject, how it affects their life, and its origin? What do you think tends to cause natural DID? As an expert what are the most obvious tells you would look for in trying to discern whether a case of DID was a real case and what it's cause was? In the psychiatric community I've noticed its rarely - almost never - diagnosed. Is that just because not a lot of practitioners are educated, or something else?
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 16, 2016 6:16:02 GMT
Is it possible for you to dispel any rumors of illuminati involvement with pokemon go? I just have to ask because for some reason am I only now seeing everybody crying "mind control" left and right as if they had never noticed mind control before pokemon go ...  |
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Post by Jos on Jul 17, 2016 2:49:22 GMT
Something came to mind - so before I forget - can you explain the difference between natural and induced DID? What is the difference in how it looks in a patient/subject, how it affects their life, and its origin? What do you think tends to cause natural DID? As an expert what are the most obvious tells you would look for in trying to discern whether a case of DID was a real case and what it's cause was? In the psychiatric community I've noticed its rarely - almost never - diagnosed. Is that just because not a lot of practitioners are educated, or something else? DID is every attention-seeker's diagnosis of choice. The temptation to do anything you like and blame someone else inside your head for it is just too great. I'm reminded of a fellow soldier whose daughter was lazy. She was failing every class due to simply not doing the work (she was more than capable). She'd even convinced her school counselor and teachers that she had DID. The first time her father met this alter he confronted it, and threatened it with loss of all privileges and punishment. The 'alter' was never heard from again.
Self-realized DID is almost impossible to diagnose, but there are certain things to look for that most psychologists would likely overlook. The most telling is 'the monarch', which, we discussed earlier; the glazed, dazed, lost look between alters. This is sometimes accompanied by a dip in heart rate and blood pressure, a quick, altered/trancelike state. It's short and easily missed. Fakers often misunderstand this bit - turning their 'switch' into some big event involving their hands, facial expression, and body language. Authentic DID demonstrates either a moment of 'freeze' or of loss of body control instead. Switching in authentic DID should be briefly surprising to the summoned alter as well, in those cases when these alters are unaware of the core's experiences.
The reason that DID is rarely diagnosed is simple: nobody wants to try to treat it, they don't know how, and it's just too far 'out there' for most 'quick n' easy' psychologists to want to take on. It would take a researcher, a 'real doctor' to even want to broach the subject.
The primary differences between guided DID and the naturally occurring variety are in the ease with which, an alter switch is made. Guided DID 'firewalls' the client's alters behind elaborate triggers reinforced under threat of punishment whereas self-realized DID will trigger based on events set by the core persona. More, guided DID makes certain that all alters are aware of experiences at all times, ensuring continuity from one to the other (unless otherwise required). Often the core persona and alters are detached from the others within the self-realized type. Externally they appear to be identical.
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Post by Jos on Jul 17, 2016 2:51:49 GMT
Is it possible for you to dispel any rumors of illuminati involvement with pokemon go? I just have to ask because for some reason am I only now seeing everybody crying "mind control" left and right as if they had never noticed mind control before pokemon go ... I can't dispel any rumors regarding this... it is most assuredly rudimentary mind control involving the entertainment industry. That statement alone should tell you everything you need to know. |
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Post by Jos on Jul 17, 2016 2:54:16 GMT
Something came to mind - so before I forget - can you explain the difference between natural and induced DID? What is the difference in how it looks in a patient/subject, how it affects their life, and its origin? What do you think tends to cause natural DID? As an expert what are the most obvious tells you would look for in trying to discern whether a case of DID was a real case and what it's cause was? In the psychiatric community I've noticed its rarely - almost never - diagnosed. Is that just because not a lot of practitioners are educated, or something else? A quick note on this before I toss my entire colleague-base under the bus: Yes, most are under-educated on the subject but then, the real sort is rarely encountered. |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 17, 2016 3:25:02 GMT
I wanted to talk about "trauma" for a minute. What are the different ways the brain tends to store traumatic memories? There's a big argument so far as I can tell whether trauma is something that gets "blocked out" by the brain but on the other side of the spectrum others have traumatic flashbacks and cannot forget their trauma. So you have a disparity, is it that trauma memories tend to be amnesiac under certain circumstances? What is the relationship between DID and trauma? How does emotional truama compare to its physical counterpart and which is more effective for control over others?
Is there a consistent, low level "trauma" induced in the masses in daily life which the entertainment industry seeks to "soothe"?
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 17, 2016 3:27:31 GMT
Is it possible for you to dispel any rumors of illuminati involvement with pokemon go? I just have to ask because for some reason am I only now seeing everybody crying "mind control" left and right as if they had never noticed mind control before pokemon go ... I can't dispel any rumors regarding this... it is most assuredly rudimentary mind control involving the entertainment industry. That statement alone should tell you everything you need to know. Is it a stretch to suppose it may have data mining applocations? |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 17, 2016 3:29:57 GMT
Something came to mind - so before I forget - can you explain the difference between natural and induced DID? What is the difference in how it looks in a patient/subject, how it affects their life, and its origin? What do you think tends to cause natural DID? As an expert what are the most obvious tells you would look for in trying to discern whether a case of DID was a real case and what it's cause was? In the psychiatric community I've noticed its rarely - almost never - diagnosed. Is that just because not a lot of practitioners are educated, or something else? DID is every attention-seeker's diagnosis of choice. The temptation to do anything you like and blame someone else inside your head for it is just too great. I'm reminded of a fellow soldier whose daughter was lazy. She was failing every class due to simply not doing the work (she was more than capable). She'd even convinced her school counselor and teachers that she had DID. The first time her father met this alter he confronted it, and threatened it with loss of all privileges and punishment. The 'alter' was never heard from again.
Self-realized DID is almost impossible to diagnose, but there are certain things to look for that most psychologists would likely overlook. The most telling is 'the monarch', which, we discussed earlier; the glazed, dazed, lost look between alters. This is sometimes accompanied by a dip in heart rate and blood pressure, a quick, altered/trancelike state. It's short and easily missed. Fakers often misunderstand this bit - turning their 'switch' into some big event involving their hands, facial expression, and body language. Authentic DID demonstrates either a moment of 'freeze' or of loss of body control instead. Switching in authentic DID should be briefly surprising to the summoned alter as well, in those cases when these alters are unaware of the core's experiences.
The reason that DID is rarely diagnosed is simple: nobody wants to try to treat it, they don't know how, and it's just too far 'out there' for most 'quick n' easy' psychologists to want to take on. It would take a researcher, a 'real doctor' to even want to broach the subject.
The primary differences between guided DID and the naturally occurring variety are in the ease with which, an alter switch is made. Guided DID 'firewalls' the client's alters behind elaborate triggers reinforced under threat of punishment whereas self-realized DID will trigger based on events set by the core persona. More, guided DID makes certain that all alters are aware of experiences at all times, ensuring continuity from one to the other (unless otherwise required). Often the core persona and alters are detached from the others within the self-realized type. Externally they appear to be identical.
Why is it that alters tend to occur alongside dissociation? What is the relationship between alternate personalities and the dissociative experience? And is it ever possible to have profound dissociation without alternate personalities ? |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 17, 2016 3:32:21 GMT
What does the "ideal candidate" for speculum look like - in terms of emotionally and mentally - and conversally what does the "least ideal" candidate tend to look like? All talent and necessity aside, but speaking strictly of individual responses to the methodology, what kind of traits would change your approach and why?
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 17, 2016 7:21:34 GMT
Jos, I find this bit of information particularly interesting. How is switching related to triggering and being triggered? I have always associated being triggered with what you mention here - a freeze, confusion, a rush of intense emotion that makes the heart skip a beat. Is the feeling of being triggered linked inextricably to switching, or is there some kind of more subtle relationship between the two? I am thinking that - the trigger is linked to the alter, either artificially in the case of mind control or as a coping mechanism in the case of self-realized DID. But there is probably still triggering which isn't linked to alters but produces a predictable behavior? This brings to mind simple principles of classic skinner-box conditioning. Am I right on that?
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Post by Amadeus on Jul 17, 2016 10:50:43 GMT
Heye jos nice to meet you
you storyline introduction replicates the storyline of a recent dead person called Skywalker whom kayli knows
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Post by Jos on Jul 18, 2016 2:22:45 GMT
I wanted to talk about "trauma" for a minute. What are the different ways the brain tends to store traumatic memories? There's a big argument so far as I can tell whether trauma is something that gets "blocked out" by the brain but on the other side of the spectrum others have traumatic flashbacks and cannot forget their trauma. So you have a disparity, is it that trauma memories tend to be amnesiac under certain circumstances? What is the relationship between DID and trauma? How does emotional truama compare to its physical counterpart and which is more effective for control over others? Is there a consistent, low level "trauma" induced in the masses in daily life which the entertainment industry seeks to "soothe"? Not different circumstances, different subjects. One subject may block while another obsesses.
Define trauma? Is it a singular event with a clearly defined beginning and end? Or is it to include the fear, loathing, obsession, and dread of having been traumatized? Is this further trauma that is somehow separated from the 'trauma event"? Not at all. This is the preferred outcome of the event, perhaps more important to developing coping mechanisms like DID than the singular event itself. Reinforce these feelings by making sure the subject knows that more events are 'coming'. none compare however, to the most effective trauma; Why did this happen to me? Even if a subject manages to somehow overcome the loss of control and the myriad feelings that trauma events are designed to lead to, they will often prolong their experience by concerning themselves with 'solving the mystery'.
Emotional trauma leaves no visible marks of course, whereas physical may but I find that the emotional sort usually 'cuts to the chase', bypassing the mind's necessity to deal with the distraction of pain and soreness and creating a loop of obsession. Both however will lead to the same in most subjects, physical trauma can just take a few days more.
As for traumatizing the masses, wouldn't you agree that the current model of daily life for anyone who has to work for a living does a fine job of that for most? The very idea of 'trade' is a sort of trauma to anyone who didn't have lots of marbles before the game began.
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Post by Jos on Jul 18, 2016 2:25:26 GMT
I can't dispel any rumors regarding this... it is most assuredly rudimentary mind control involving the entertainment industry. That statement alone should tell you everything you need to know. Is it a stretch to suppose it may have data mining applocations? As I explained to Andrea many posts back on the blog post: everything done is done to convolute. Other outcomes are secondary to simply wasting your time. however certainly any opportunity to gain access to your data is taken. |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 18, 2016 2:26:39 GMT
I wanted to talk about "trauma" for a minute. What are the different ways the brain tends to store traumatic memories? There's a big argument so far as I can tell whether trauma is something that gets "blocked out" by the brain but on the other side of the spectrum others have traumatic flashbacks and cannot forget their trauma. So you have a disparity, is it that trauma memories tend to be amnesiac under certain circumstances? What is the relationship between DID and trauma? How does emotional truama compare to its physical counterpart and which is more effective for control over others? Is there a consistent, low level "trauma" induced in the masses in daily life which the entertainment industry seeks to "soothe"? Not different circumstances, different subjects. One subject may block while another obsesses.
Define trauma? Is it a singular event with a clearly defined beginning and end? Or is it to include the fear, loathing, obsession, and dread of having been traumatized? Is this further trauma that is somehow separated from the 'trauma event"? Not at all. This is the preferred outcome of the event, perhaps more important to developing coping mechanisms like DID than the singular event itself. Reinforce these feelings by making sure the subject knows that more events are 'coming'. none compare however, to the most effective trauma; Why did this happen to me? Even if a subject manages to somehow overcome the loss of control and the myriad feelings that trauma events are designed to lead to, they will often prolong their experience by concerning themselves with 'solving the mystery'.
Emotional trauma leaves no visible marks of course, whereas physical may but I find that the emotional sort usually 'cuts to the chase', bypassing the mind's necessity to deal with the distraction of pain and soreness and creating a loop of obsession. Both however will lead to the same in most subjects, physical trauma can just take a few days more.
As for traumatizing the masses, wouldn't you agree that the current model of daily life for anyone who has to work for a living does a fine job of that for most? The very idea of 'trade' is a sort of trauma to anyone who didn't have lots of marbles before the game began.
Ahh...the loop of obsession. Are you saying, this loop of obsession is useful for reinforcing the trauma? And, the unsolvable mystery propels the loop of obsession? |
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Post by Jos on Jul 18, 2016 2:37:45 GMT
DID is every attention-seeker's diagnosis of choice. The temptation to do anything you like and blame someone else inside your head for it is just too great. I'm reminded of a fellow soldier whose daughter was lazy. She was failing every class due to simply not doing the work (she was more than capable). She'd even convinced her school counselor and teachers that she had DID. The first time her father met this alter he confronted it, and threatened it with loss of all privileges and punishment. The 'alter' was never heard from again.
Self-realized DID is almost impossible to diagnose, but there are certain things to look for that most psychologists would likely overlook. The most telling is 'the monarch', which, we discussed earlier; the glazed, dazed, lost look between alters. This is sometimes accompanied by a dip in heart rate and blood pressure, a quick, altered/trancelike state. It's short and easily missed. Fakers often misunderstand this bit - turning their 'switch' into some big event involving their hands, facial expression, and body language. Authentic DID demonstrates either a moment of 'freeze' or of loss of body control instead. Switching in authentic DID should be briefly surprising to the summoned alter as well, in those cases when these alters are unaware of the core's experiences.
The reason that DID is rarely diagnosed is simple: nobody wants to try to treat it, they don't know how, and it's just too far 'out there' for most 'quick n' easy' psychologists to want to take on. It would take a researcher, a 'real doctor' to even want to broach the subject.
The primary differences between guided DID and the naturally occurring variety are in the ease with which, an alter switch is made. Guided DID 'firewalls' the client's alters behind elaborate triggers reinforced under threat of punishment whereas self-realized DID will trigger based on events set by the core persona. More, guided DID makes certain that all alters are aware of experiences at all times, ensuring continuity from one to the other (unless otherwise required). Often the core persona and alters are detached from the others within the self-realized type. Externally they appear to be identical.
Why is it that alters tend to occur alongside dissociation? What is the relationship between alternate personalities and the dissociative experience? And is it ever possible to have profound dissociation without alternate personalities ? Now this is an exceptional question. Some would explain that alters are dissociation but you know otherwise. Dissociation leads to alters as the BIOS screen of a computer leads to alternative hard disks if I may be analogous. I believe that the 'core', the sub-conscious 'watcher' in each of us has a sort of survival instinct/Faisafe that will lead to the creation of alters so that the full 'human' may function once again. In our case, these are guided alters but for the self-realized I believe that each is based on a facet of the core, an amplification of that single facet with a 'being' wrapped around it.
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Post by Jos on Jul 18, 2016 2:47:07 GMT
What does the "ideal candidate" for speculum look like - in terms of emotionally and mentally - and conversally what does the "least ideal" candidate tend to look like? All talent and necessity aside, but speaking strictly of individual responses to the methodology, what kind of traits would change your approach and why? Ideal: A human of average intelligence, who is also possesses high false-esteem and low self-esteem, controlling, shallow, brave, and gullible.
Least Idea: High or low Intelligence, introspective, selfless, cowardly (will tend to block instead of obsess), Imaginative, jaded.
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Post by Jos on Jul 18, 2016 3:06:43 GMT
Jos, I find this bit of information particularly interesting. How is switching related to triggering and being triggered? I have always associated being triggered with what you mention here - a freeze, confusion, a rush of intense emotion that makes the heart skip a beat. Is the feeling of being triggered linked inextricably to switching, or is there some kind of more subtle relationship between the two? I am thinking that - the trigger is linked to the alter, either artificially in the case of mind control or as a coping mechanism in the case of self-realized DID. But there is probably still triggering which isn't linked to alters but produces a predictable behavior? This brings to mind simple principles of classic skinner-box conditioning. Am I right on that? I'm not sure I understand your question here. Triggers lead to switch/glaze/access state leads to alter. is that what you are looking for?
Let's define a 'trigger' within the confines of our discussion: Trigger = reminder of traumatic event leading to an anticipated outcome. No matter whether self-realized or programmed via OCC: the green light comes on. The rat eats.
All alters are coping mechanisms whether programmed or self-realized. The former is simply based on the expectations and guidance of external forces whereas the latter is freely formed.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 18, 2016 3:08:02 GMT
Jos, I find this bit of information particularly interesting. How is switching related to triggering and being triggered? I have always associated being triggered with what you mention here - a freeze, confusion, a rush of intense emotion that makes the heart skip a beat. Is the feeling of being triggered linked inextricably to switching, or is there some kind of more subtle relationship between the two? I am thinking that - the trigger is linked to the alter, either artificially in the case of mind control or as a coping mechanism in the case of self-realized DID. But there is probably still triggering which isn't linked to alters but produces a predictable behavior? This brings to mind simple principles of classic skinner-box conditioning. Am I right on that? I'm not sure I understand your question here. Triggers lead to switch/glaze/access state leads to alter. is that what you are looking for?
Let's define a 'trigger' within the confines of our discussion: Trigger = reminder of traumatic event leading to an anticipated outcome. No matter whether self-realized or programmed via OCC: the green light comes on. The rat eats.
All alters are coping mechanisms whether programmed or self-realized. The former is simply based on the expectations and guidance of external forces whereas the latter is freely formed.
So the trigger can produce a behavior or it can produce a switch, depending on how it has been conditioned? |
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