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Post by josv2 on Aug 3, 2016 23:39:06 GMT
Do you think simulations, like video games, are good for conditioning? Do you know anything about the new tech used for monitoring brain patterns, I mean do you guys utilize EEGs or things of that nature to learn more about clients? Video games are excellent for conditioning.
Brain activity can also be revealing but it isn't necessary to monitor regularly. There's an EEG in each of my offices. It's utilized heavily during the shattering.
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Post by josv2 on Aug 3, 2016 23:40:45 GMT
What are friendships between celebrities like? Real or just for show? They can have real friendships but no one is allowed to get too close. Celebs especially can counter each other's programming if allowed to spend too much time together. They each 'know' what the other has been through. They won't usually discuss it, but will hint at it as they do everywhere else. |
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Post by josv2 on Aug 3, 2016 23:48:15 GMT
How do you guys decide which social agendas you are going to push? Can you walk me through what a team meeting for an asset usually goes like? These orders are handed down from 'on high'. We aren't even privy to the particulars, just that the asset will be expected to behave in a certain way. I believe that Ari's 'dangerous woman' phase was requested by her mother, though I don't know how. Likely through her associations with prominent feminists.
A team meeting Is fairly bland. imagine any typical business meeting and having it revolve around a celebrity instead of commodity. I require reports on all behavior and train the team to watch literally every encounter and exchange with the client. Nothing is inconsequential.
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Post by josv2 on Aug 3, 2016 23:49:51 GMT
Just think of the glaze as being a wind-down period. Let's give analogy. I'm in an electrical room. The main switch is heavy. It gets pulled down. The circuitry shuts down. You push back up on it and it reboots. That is how your DID switch-over is. The rapid heart rate is probably from the re-boot. That's a fair analogy. Welcome to the thread. |
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Post by josv2 on Aug 4, 2016 0:03:25 GMT
Jos, speaking as a scholar, in terms of psychology, what relevant theories are pertinent to your line of work? If a person were looking to further their understanding, would you point them in the direction of behaviorism, conditioning, etc? Are there any works , journals, papers , that you would recommend? Any of Jung's later work. Other names like Braid, Freud, McDougal, Scharff, ... I may be revealing the worst kept secret of all for those with eyes to see, but any dissertations by prominent hypnotherapists comprise the lion's share of the 'mind control bible'.
There's just one important thing you have to understand - Hypnosis can't be achieved in a healthy mind. Once you accept that, then look into modern interrogation techniques. The two amalgamate into one.
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Post by josv2 on Aug 4, 2016 0:13:09 GMT
I want to know a bit more detail about immersive roleplay scripts. Could it be framed on any fiction? Is it typically custom tailored for the asset? How frequent is it? Does it serve the function of producing triggers or associatioms or is it in a sense preparatory? On your thread we touched upon alice in wonderland and oz. what others are common? It depends upon the status of the client. If we're talking about the shattering, then role play is utilized to introduce a new frame-of-thought. This role play can be reality-bending, even suspending, as the subject is always in an altered state and will accept it.
If we're talking about role play with an established alter, we're trying to guide outcome and anticipated reaction. This role play must abide by the rules of reality so that it isn't rejected and is more effective.
In the case of the 'core persona' and role play, it's used to set up events (more subterfuge than role play here).
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:13:42 GMT
A cascading state...beginning unaltered and allowing the process to guide into the altered state. Can you explain that in a little more detail or is that not allowed? Sure. An example of this can be demonstrated at a rave. The music plus light show begins with the subject in stability and eventually leads to altered state. The concept is similar but not as much fun. Ah. That is a very helpful analogy, thanks |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:14:09 GMT
Do you think simulations, like video games, are good for conditioning? Do you know anything about the new tech used for monitoring brain patterns, I mean do you guys utilize EEGs or things of that nature to learn more about clients? Video games are excellent for conditioning.
Brain activity can also be revealing but it isn't necessary to monitor regularly. There's an EEG in each of my offices. It's utilized heavily during the shattering.
What does that look like nowadays? An eeg machine that is |
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Post by josv2 on Aug 4, 2016 0:17:17 GMT
Jos, I was watching agents of shield tonight and I stumbled upon the brainwashing arc . Here is a brief scene, it's like 3:00min. What do you think? It strikes me as a bit clockwork orange. Hm.. what to say? Yes. in certain instances. No. in most. |
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Post by josv2 on Aug 4, 2016 0:18:54 GMT
Words have power. I was reading something last week about Chinese pow's that busted their own eardrums to prevent brainwashing by their captors. Words are powerless but I understand the spirit of what you're trying to say. Hearing has power. |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:21:06 GMT
What are friendships between celebrities like? Real or just for show? They can have real friendships but no one is allowed to get too close. Celebs especially can counter each other's programming if allowed to spend too much time together. They each 'know' what the other has been through. They won't usually discuss it, but will hint at it as they do everywhere else. Oh...You know this is sort of sad. Do they have other non celeb friends who they are allowed to have genuinelly caring relationships with? I had a friend with a very famous sibling once. She said she always felt terribly about how her brother never was able to be around people who genuinelly cared about him for who he was. I think of everything, that not having true friendships would be the worst. |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:22:19 GMT
Jos, I was watching agents of shield tonight and I stumbled upon the brainwashing arc . Here is a brief scene, it's like 3:00min. What do you think? It strikes me as a bit clockwork orange. Hm.. what to say? Yes. in certain instances. No. in most. Is there any pop culture that portays it well ? It is generally portrayed in trope clockwork orange fashion (you saw that movie right?) |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:25:25 GMT
Jos, speaking as a scholar, in terms of psychology, what relevant theories are pertinent to your line of work? If a person were looking to further their understanding, would you point them in the direction of behaviorism, conditioning, etc? Are there any works , journals, papers , that you would recommend? Any of Jung's later work. Other names like Braid, Freud, McDougal, Scharff, ... I may be revealing the worst kept secret of all for those with eyes to see, but any dissertations by prominent hypnotherapists comprise the lion's share of the 'mind control bible'.
There's just one important thing you have to understand - Hypnosis can't be achieved in a healthy mind. Once you accept that, then look into modern interrogation techniques. The two amalgamate into one.
I have a whole folder of this line of stuff (hypnotherapy etc) from archive.org that was amazing. It is also no longer on archive.org. I learned a lot from it. It can be rather difficult to read at times though. I may post some stuff here for input at some point when I next revisit it. Of course most of those names are familiar to me but some aren't. And I have never made that interrogation connection. Thanks. |
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Post by josv2 on Aug 4, 2016 0:26:01 GMT
Video games are excellent for conditioning.
Brain activity can also be revealing but it isn't necessary to monitor regularly. There's an EEG in each of my offices. It's utilized heavily during the shattering.
What does that look like nowadays? An eeg machine that is |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:29:23 GMT
Does the client have to touch it or wear some sort of head accessory for it to capture biometric data? |
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Post by josv2 on Aug 4, 2016 0:29:40 GMT
Hm.. what to say? Yes. in certain instances. No. in most. Is there any pop culture that portays it well ? It is generally portrayed in trope clockwork orange fashion (you saw that movie right?) I'd have to watch more media to answer this. Sorry. if something comes to mind I'll update. |
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Post by josv2 on Aug 4, 2016 0:31:16 GMT
Does the client have to touch it or wear some sort of head accessory for it to capture biometric data? Note the 'lead board' to the right of each amplifier. The typical contacts are required. I'm not sure if there's a wireless alternative. As I said, it's a fairly secondary routine. |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:36:46 GMT
Does the client have to touch it or wear some sort of head accessory for it to capture biometric data? Note the 'lead board' to the right of each amplifier. The typical contacts are required. I'm not sure if there's a wireless alternative. As I said, it's a fairly secondary routine. A secondary routine? |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:45:37 GMT
Jos your job is to learn more about your clients then they know about themselves basically. I want to know sort of about what they are like as people rather then icons. What changes about who they are from when you first start working with them, to post shattering and beyond etc? In terms of core persona and just general personality. Can you describe their affect?
I was thinking about writing a story where a pop superstar was the protagonist. But I am not sure how I would portray her behind the scenes. Are all pop stars divas or are there exceptions? I know you said many are empty shells. I have to write a character. I have an idea of the character I want to write. But your input might be helpful.
Would a character who was emotionally blank and divorced from their ability to feel unless they were performing in some capacity be an accurate archetype? This a very old idea of mine with a character I've been dreaming up since high school long before I truly knew about this stuff but somehow I anticipated it. This character is somebody who does something that absolutely refutes the control of her management and gets in huge trouble. She agrees to fake her death to disappear and pose it as a drug overdose. The story takes place in her huge empty house where she is grappling to reconnect with her own humanity. Shes a very interesting character I have always wanted to portray.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 4, 2016 0:52:01 GMT
Is there any pop culture that portays it well ? It is generally portrayed in trope clockwork orange fashion (you saw that movie right?) I'd have to watch more media to answer this. Sorry. if something comes to mind I'll update. If you can get your hands on American Ultra and have a spare night at some point I'd love to hear what you think of it. It was a comedy about a sleeper agent. Of course it seems like it got the old hollywood treatment but when I saw it I was sort of shocked somebody would actually venture to get such a thing produced. I liked the movie. I don't think it was realistic at all but I would still like to hear your opinion on it. |
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