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Post by Source on Dec 2, 2018 4:22:33 GMT
how certain are you of anything?
how different is one of ideas from each other?
if this entire world is somehow made to manipulate you into something (a particular action or not taking action or revealing information etc) every person is unconsciously part of the machinery of the illusion. Every idea, history, event are part of the illusion.
The idea of Christ and the idea of the demiurge are part of the illusion.
idk the answer, I am just thinking about this
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Post by phoeniX on Dec 2, 2018 4:42:35 GMT
As Shakespeare wrote "The play's the thing"
Each actor has a role to play, but can still deliver the performance in their own style. Do you go for the flowers or the rotten fruit? Both are appreciation based on your audience's wealth.
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Post by Corvus Dei on Dec 3, 2018 2:30:28 GMT
how certain are you of anything? how different is one of ideas from each other? if this entire world is somehow made to manipulate you into something (a particular action or not taking action or revealing information etc) every person is unconsciously part of the machinery of the illusion. Every idea, history, event are part of the illusion. The idea of Christ and the idea of the demiurge are part of the illusion. idk the answer, I am just thinking about this As I would see it we operate with a cognitive model inside our minds which represent certain things to have been, be or become the case. Now as living, caring and also instinctual and emotional creatures, we assign likelihood of truth to some (X% chance, given a,b,c,...). Adjustment in one part of the web can result in adjustments in other parts. (for example, after playing around with various ideas of the Divine, you once read the God Delusion, and your suspicion of or hope in dieties may be crashed across the board and bring down faith in some other religious or spiritual as well). Some core aspects of the model are hard to alter, like, how your body is formed, looks like, feels like etc. With clear thoughts and images, you also just experience what you experience and there's not much need to judge actuality of it. (like, I'm sitting here typing and smoking a cigeratte, pretty sure of that) However more abstract ideas that emanate away from daily lived experience may require or intrinsically beg questions. Like, how do I know what the weather will be like? Which diet suits me best? Etc. You work from uncertainty but through trial, error and external reliable feedback, you can get more assurance that this or that is truly the case. Approximations. Now when you go with the abstract and far away to such measures that it's questions about Ultimate Causation, Ultimate Good n Evil, the nature of reality or the mind etc., you can end up in all kinds of tangles and stories and confusions. If not handled properly, those topics can become a dangerous storm inside your mind. Unless you somehow manage to navigate that and come back ashore with greater ideas, inspirations or insights. Even if non of it is strictly true, actual or provable, you might have just danced and engaged with something bigger than yourself, and that can be beautiful and humbling, truly spiritual. There is some story to be told about humanity, but I can't give a satisfactory account for now. At the same time I don't take blind faith in any cosmological or creation story. I try, and everyone tries, to situate their life within a web of contexts and stories that make some sense, but yes, knowing you can be wrong is one of the most honest attitudes to develop. Maybe of interest to someone: www.lesswrong.com/Christ and Demiurge have bothered my mind and my last psychosis more than enough, I'm letting that one topic slip for now because it means little to me, and little I can do with it.
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Post by Source on Dec 3, 2018 2:58:28 GMT
always good to hear from you much to ponder
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