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Post by Chris on Apr 18, 2017 10:13:41 GMT
I left this website because I had a couple of threads locked by Zen. I really did not appreciate some of the comments made to me by Zen and given that the mascot OYE had been banned, there was virtually no activity. Sol seemed like he was itching to clobber something, and it did not seem to matter the target. It was kind of cute at first, then it wasn't.
Basically, I could only fucking hope to get trolled on this website. It needs mods with character, presence, dedication to the site and most importantly intelligence.
Now I do not care about the he said she said bullshit in this battle with GLP and M&M. I am just going to tell you how it is for me. I am not friends with M&M. I have no love for GLP. In my own experience with Facts, I have found him to be straight up and I get his humour a lot of the time. This does not mean we will be buddies, but I disagree with slinging shit at him too. I actually asked him to apologise to you Caylus lol, I have not spoke to him since and that was a while ago.
GLP to me is a portal. A gateway to a host of minds, worlds even and some of them are very dark. It warps perception immensely so whilst I do not love GLP, I cant hate it either, it is simply a portal to potential emotions. As for the mods, they do the mod shit and I have learned just to not speak of them unless I want trouble my way.
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Additional note by me, Zen: it was 1- one - thread that I did lock from You, Chris, this one: bluemonarch.freeforums.net/thread/547/why-merit-leads-butthurt
Then you made this one: bluemonarch.freeforums.net/thread/549/ti-heart-goodbye
Get your facts straight, alright?
Goodbye.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 12:34:01 GMT
Got me in one chrisp
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Post by I$B on Apr 18, 2017 12:42:19 GMT
Forum fuckery for a number of reasons is leaving me with little desire to participate anywhere, on any forum, in a public capacity but rather to start my own forum not because I want to own one, run one, or be responsible for one, but literally a forum of one, inviting nobody, not accepting membership, and possibly 100% private.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Apr 18, 2017 18:02:49 GMT
I get this Chrispy and I am sorry you feel this way but if my forum is dead as you say I'd suppose it needed more support, not less...
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Post by Chris on Apr 18, 2017 19:45:39 GMT
I get this Chrispy and I am sorry you feel this way but if my forum is dead as you say I'd suppose it needed more support, not less... If it is 'your forum', you need to take responsibility for the mods. There is a reason your forum is dead and you cannot put that on me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 19:55:52 GMT
Facts? Really? Why do you play such games? Zen clearly locked your thread because you mentioned the trigger word "Merit" outright in a thread title just as you are doing now with "Facts," and his followers were causing much difficulty here at the time. That thread was a homing beacon for trolls.
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Post by Some more facts on Apr 18, 2017 20:11:02 GMT
I get this Chrispy and I am sorry you feel this way but if my forum is dead as you say I'd suppose it needed more support, not less... If it is 'your forum', you need to take responsibility for the mods. There is a reason your forum is dead and you cannot put that on me.
Well fucking said, Chris. This post and the OP. Facts or Mila will never apologize to Caylus. That's not going to happen. I have it in the know they strongly feel they were attacked and harassed for MONTHS before shit hit the fan on here, beginning back last summer when Facts changed IDs, and then worse when they went public with being together a few months after that. I wouldn't say they think of you as a friend, Chris, because no one knows each other well enough to be considered a "friend" but I know neither of them had a problem with you and Mila openly talked to people about how she really liked you. I think she even said it publicly in a thread. I don't remember which one. Caylus, your forum is dead because you let a woman (Zen) take control of this place and in a matter of two weeks, she managed to run it into the group by being a control freak, deleted threads and posts while preaching anti-censorship, and banning members (OYE being the ONLY person who regularly made threads, as weird as they were) at the same time preaching about not being like GLP with the bans. She then went on to antagonize the situation further by auto-changing Mila and Facts names to insults and THEN Sol came in like a bull in a china stop with fucking rabies and the situation exploded. What did you expect to happen? You should have stepped back, taken a deep breath, and either handled the situation yourself or gotten someone competent and neutral-ish (like Chris) to deal with it for you or just simply said NOTHING and let it be. Likely, as with all tornados, it would have dissipated but you went on a mission to poke the beast with a damn stick. And you did it for months and months. Caylus, you may not like Facts or Mila. None of you might. But they are two people you'd want on your side or at least having neutral feelings towards you. If you'd thought this out, you'd have understood that. I know for fact Mila never talked to you and you let Seer influence you into hating her. I think you'd actually really have liked her. Seer had/has some kind of issue with Facts and she went behind everyone's back and poisoned them and manipulated them into thinking Facts and Mila are some evil monsters and suddenly a whole host of people "hated" them. See the connection here? Seer deliberately manipulates people in order to create and feed drama and you can delete this if you want because I am talking about a person who is supposedly your friend but if you think back, who was the FIRST person to come out swinging towards M&M? It was Seer. Then Mad World essentially became a place to bash them, where they were openly posted about. Seer even had a post titled "Dear Mila" followed by a long list of insults and nastiness. She regularly went back and found old Facts posts and quoted them in an attempt to bait him into returning to the thread when both Facts AND Mila told me they had zero interest in even remotely interacting with Seer. It's insanity. A whole group of people villainized two people who seem universally loved by those that know them. Does that make sense? Facts is not responsible for what happened to you on GLP, Kayli. As much as you want/wanted to blame him, it's not him. He also seems much happier and less interested in any kind of drama since Mila came along. Probably if you had just approached him, especially after Tandym died, NONE of this would have happened. What really set them off is people speculating that they had something to do with Tandym's death. Tandym was a good friend of Mila's in real life. She explained this in detail on ICOM. Tandym was a real person with a real family and a real life. Both of them were absolutely devasted when she died and can you imagine being in their shoes when people are accusing you of a) creating a sock persona or b) being responsible for their death? They were accused of ritually killing her or forcing her to suicide by some people here and on ICOM. That is SICK. Anyway, that's really that. The GLP admin and M&M care much less about you guys than you think. This all could have been much different.
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Post by moar on Apr 18, 2017 20:14:35 GMT
Facts? Really? Why do you play such games? Zen clearly locked your thread because you mentioned the trigger word "Merit" outright in a thread title just as you are doing now with "Facts," and his followers were causing much difficulty here at the time. That thread was a homing beacon for trolls. Oh please. Saying someone's name is a reason to lock a thread? Zen went on a power trip and that's simple to understand. She had zero idea how to mod a forum and basically managed to run the place into the ground in a few weeks. You do not have one iota of proof that Facts even came here other than ONE post he made. There have been a thousand threads here that are "beacons" for trolls that were not locked. Zen decided she didn't like Chris because he was the only one who was not following along with the cult mentality of hating Facts and Mila. He expressed dissent and THAT is why his thread was locked. She deleted ANY posts that expressed an opinion different from her own or any posts expressing concern for the behavior of the mods. Chris had ever right to get upset over what happened. He was censored by an inexperienced mod on his friend's forum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 20:26:05 GMT
If it is 'your forum', you need to take responsibility for the mods. There is a reason your forum is dead and you cannot put that on me.
Well fucking said, Chris. This post and the OP. Facts or Mila will never apologize to Caylus. That's not going to happen. I have it in the know they strongly feel they were attacked and harassed for MONTHS before shit hit the fan on here, beginning back last summer when Facts changed IDs, and then worse when they went public with being together a few months after that. I wouldn't say they think of you as a friend, Chris, because no one knows each other well enough to be considered a "friend" but I know neither of them had a problem with you and Mila openly talked to people about how she really liked you. I think she even said it publicly in a thread. I don't remember which one. Caylus, your forum is dead because you let a woman (Zen) take control of this place and in a matter of two weeks, she managed to run it into the group by being a control freak, deleted threads and posts while preaching anti-censorship, and banning members (OYE being the ONLY person who regularly made threads, as weird as they were) at the same time preaching about not being like GLP with the bans. She then went on to antagonize the situation further by auto-changing Mila and Facts names to insults and THEN Sol came in like a bull in a china stop with fucking rabies and the situation exploded. What did you expect to happen? You should have stepped back, taken a deep breath, and either handled the situation yourself or gotten someone competent and neutral-ish (like Chris) to deal with it for you or just simply said NOTHING and let it be. Likely, as with all tornados, it would have dissipated but you went on a mission to poke the beast with a damn stick. And you did it for months and months. Caylus, you may not like Facts or Mila. None of you might. But they are two people you'd want on your side or at least having neutral feelings towards you. If you'd thought this out, you'd have understood that. I know for fact Mila never talked to you and you let Seer influence you into hating her. I think you'd actually really have liked her. Seer had/has some kind of issue with Facts and she went behind everyone's back and poisoned them and manipulated them into thinking Facts and Mila are some evil monsters and suddenly a whole host of people "hated" them. See the connection here? Seer deliberately manipulates people in order to create and feed drama and you can delete this if you want because I am talking about a person who is supposedly your friend but if you think back, who was the FIRST person to come out swinging towards M&M? It was Seer. Then Mad World essentially became a place to bash them, where they were openly posted about. Seer even had a post titled "Dear Mila" followed by a long list of insults and nastiness. She regularly went back and found old Facts posts and quoted them in an attempt to bait him into returning to the thread when both Facts AND Mila told me they had zero interest in even remotely interacting with Seer. It's insanity. A whole group of people villainized two people who seem universally loved by those that know them. Does that make sense? Facts is not responsible for what happened to you on GLP, Kayli. As much as you want/wanted to blame him, it's not him. He also seems much happier and less interested in any kind of drama since Mila came along. Probably if you had just approached him, especially after Tandym died, NONE of this would have happened. What really set them off is people speculating that they had something to do with Tandym's death. Tandym was a good friend of Mila's in real life. She explained this in detail on ICOM. Tandym was a real person with a real family and a real life. Both of them were absolutely devasted when she died and can you imagine being in their shoes when people are accusing you of a) creating a sock persona or b) being responsible for their death? They were accused of ritually killing her or forcing her to suicide by some people here and on ICOM. That is SICK. Anyway, that's really that. The GLP admin and M&M care much less about you guys than you think. This all could have been much different. So, what is the end goal here? Shall we all hail Merit and Mila - king and queen of the conspiracy forums? I'm sure they are interesting people. Their followers have been quite unkind in this place, however. I do believe the negative posts about M & M have pretty much ceased here unless Chris or one of you AC people brings them back. So I'm fine with peace. Peace is good.
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Post by goop on Apr 18, 2017 20:30:43 GMT
Well fucking said, Chris. This post and the OP. Facts or Mila will never apologize to Caylus. That's not going to happen. I have it in the know they strongly feel they were attacked and harassed for MONTHS before shit hit the fan on here, beginning back last summer when Facts changed IDs, and then worse when they went public with being together a few months after that. I wouldn't say they think of you as a friend, Chris, because no one knows each other well enough to be considered a "friend" but I know neither of them had a problem with you and Mila openly talked to people about how she really liked you. I think she even said it publicly in a thread. I don't remember which one. Caylus, your forum is dead because you let a woman (Zen) take control of this place and in a matter of two weeks, she managed to run it into the group by being a control freak, deleted threads and posts while preaching anti-censorship, and banning members (OYE being the ONLY person who regularly made threads, as weird as they were) at the same time preaching about not being like GLP with the bans. She then went on to antagonize the situation further by auto-changing Mila and Facts names to insults and THEN Sol came in like a bull in a china stop with fucking rabies and the situation exploded. What did you expect to happen? You should have stepped back, taken a deep breath, and either handled the situation yourself or gotten someone competent and neutral-ish (like Chris) to deal with it for you or just simply said NOTHING and let it be. Likely, as with all tornados, it would have dissipated but you went on a mission to poke the beast with a damn stick. And you did it for months and months. Caylus, you may not like Facts or Mila. None of you might. But they are two people you'd want on your side or at least having neutral feelings towards you. If you'd thought this out, you'd have understood that. I know for fact Mila never talked to you and you let Seer influence you into hating her. I think you'd actually really have liked her. Seer had/has some kind of issue with Facts and she went behind everyone's back and poisoned them and manipulated them into thinking Facts and Mila are some evil monsters and suddenly a whole host of people "hated" them. See the connection here? Seer deliberately manipulates people in order to create and feed drama and you can delete this if you want because I am talking about a person who is supposedly your friend but if you think back, who was the FIRST person to come out swinging towards M&M? It was Seer. Then Mad World essentially became a place to bash them, where they were openly posted about. Seer even had a post titled "Dear Mila" followed by a long list of insults and nastiness. She regularly went back and found old Facts posts and quoted them in an attempt to bait him into returning to the thread when both Facts AND Mila told me they had zero interest in even remotely interacting with Seer. It's insanity. A whole group of people villainized two people who seem universally loved by those that know them. Does that make sense? Facts is not responsible for what happened to you on GLP, Kayli. As much as you want/wanted to blame him, it's not him. He also seems much happier and less interested in any kind of drama since Mila came along. Probably if you had just approached him, especially after Tandym died, NONE of this would have happened. What really set them off is people speculating that they had something to do with Tandym's death. Tandym was a good friend of Mila's in real life. She explained this in detail on ICOM. Tandym was a real person with a real family and a real life. Both of them were absolutely devasted when she died and can you imagine being in their shoes when people are accusing you of a) creating a sock persona or b) being responsible for their death? They were accused of ritually killing her or forcing her to suicide by some people here and on ICOM. That is SICK. Anyway, that's really that. The GLP admin and M&M care much less about you guys than you think. This all could have been much different. So, what is the end goal here? Shall we all hail Merit and Mila - king and queen of the conspiracy forums? I'm sure they are interesting people. Their followers have been quite unkind in this place, however. I do believe the negative posts about M & M have pretty much ceased here unless Chris or one of you AC people brings them back. So I'm fine with peace. Peace is good. What is negative here? Adult discussion? Does "peace" mean nobody is allowed to discuss the ins and outs? That's a strange version of peace. You seem to the type who just wants to believe what you believe even when you are presented with facts you can dispute. Oh well. Not much point in trying to reason with you or discuss anything with you because it's just a shake-my-head situation with you. Amazing how a woman who supposedly has a degree can lack emotional intelligence.
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Post by goop on Apr 18, 2017 20:31:31 GMT
...typo. "Facts you can't dispute."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 20:38:39 GMT
So, what is the end goal here? Shall we all hail Merit and Mila - king and queen of the conspiracy forums? I'm sure they are interesting people. Their followers have been quite unkind in this place, however. I do believe the negative posts about M & M have pretty much ceased here unless Chris or one of you AC people brings them back. So I'm fine with peace. Peace is good. What is negative here? Adult discussion? Does "peace" mean nobody is allowed to discuss the ins and outs? That's a strange version of peace. You seem to the type who just wants to believe what you believe even when you are presented with facts you can dispute. Oh well. Not much point in trying to reason with you or discuss anything with you because it's just a shake-my-head situation with you. Amazing how a woman who supposedly has a degree can lack emotional intelligence. Oh, you remember me from the other forum. I'm rather flattered. And you corrected a typo. Mila, is this you? I'd like to meet you one day. I enjoy debating, and you are formidable.
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Post by Chris on Apr 18, 2017 21:22:14 GMT
Facts? Really? Why do you play such games? Zen clearly locked your thread because you mentioned the trigger word "Merit" outright in a thread title just as you are doing now with "Facts," and his followers were causing much difficulty here at the time. That thread was a homing beacon for trolls. Zen is clearly an idiot with parrot capabilities lol How many times do you have to be told to stop making assumptions about the followers?
At this point, Caylus has more 'followers' anyway, I mean people cant even have an opinion around here without someone's tampon coming loose.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 21:25:03 GMT
Facts? Really? Why do you play such games? Zen clearly locked your thread because you mentioned the trigger word "Merit" outright in a thread title just as you are doing now with "Facts," and his followers were causing much difficulty here at the time. That thread was a homing beacon for trolls. Zen is clearly an idiot with parrot capabilities lol How many times do you have to be told to stop making assumptions about the followers?
At this point, Caylus has more 'followers' anyway, I mean people cant even have an opinion around here without someone's tampon coming loose.
hahaha oy - did you have to bring in tampons? I corrected myself somewhere or other about the "followers" thing. I was wrong about my assumptions with that. My apologies.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Apr 18, 2017 22:05:36 GMT
I don't expect an apology, that would be a little too bizzaro for this reality. I doubt I handled any of this the best way, but I didn't appreciate being hunted down and persecuted every time I went near glp to talk to my friends. Call this place censored if you must, but words being changed for drama avoidance and nazi-esque hunting for "banned" members are totally different levels of "moderation". Sure, glp is big enough that it doesn't matter, but it doesn't make it just. Running a forum is hard. It's mostly dead but at least it's safe. Well, not even that anymore I guess. I can't keep it safe and open at the same time, but I'm always trying to find that balance and make adjustments. This isn't easy, even without the drama
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 23:29:16 GMT
Any who, laughs aside.
Why I remember a chrisp fellow making a thread (or 2) for caylus on GLP. Locked and banned if I recall. Moot point I guess.
There was some nasty ass pyschological attacks. Targeted at peoples weak spots, no? Aimed at a persons soft points to make them doubt themselves, or their friends.
Anyone who frequented chat, compare and contrast. We may have argued at times, but it didn't degrade to trying to tear others down.
What the true story is, who is behind, or their motives are curious questions.
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Post by . on Apr 19, 2017 2:17:17 GMT
What is negative here? Adult discussion? Does "peace" mean nobody is allowed to discuss the ins and outs? That's a strange version of peace. You seem to the type who just wants to believe what you believe even when you are presented with facts you can dispute. Oh well. Not much point in trying to reason with you or discuss anything with you because it's just a shake-my-head situation with you. Amazing how a woman who supposedly has a degree can lack emotional intelligence. Oh, you remember me from the other forum. I'm rather flattered. And you corrected a typo. Mila, is this you? I'd like to meet you one day. I enjoy debating, and you are formidable. Nope. It wasn't.
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Post by . on Apr 19, 2017 2:18:29 GMT
Facts? Really? Why do you play such games? Zen clearly locked your thread because you mentioned the trigger word "Merit" outright in a thread title just as you are doing now with "Facts," and his followers were causing much difficulty here at the time. That thread was a homing beacon for trolls. Zen is clearly an idiot with parrot capabilities lol How many times do you have to be told to stop making assumptions about the followers?
At this point, Caylus has more 'followers' anyway, I mean people cant even have an opinion around here without someone's tampon coming loose.
LOL Chris. I have to hand it to you, man, you are awesome.
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Post by . on Apr 19, 2017 2:21:15 GMT
I don't expect an apology, that would be a little too bizzaro for this reality. I doubt I handled any of this the best way, but I didn't appreciate being hunted down and persecuted every time I went near glp to talk to my friends. Call this place censored if you must, but words being changed for drama avoidance and nazi-esque hunting for "banned" members are totally different levels of "moderation". Sure, glp is big enough that it doesn't matter, but it doesn't make it just. Running a forum is hard. It's mostly dead but at least it's safe. Well, not even that anymore I guess. I can't keep it safe and open at the same time, but I'm always trying to find that balance and make adjustments. This isn't easy, even without the drama Ok, no. You made yourself a target by a) most of the time giving away your identity and b) antagonizing M&M and admin. You got permabanned and on GLP that means something. They didn't want you there and that's the admin's right to decide. They ALWAYS have admin online and you exposed yourself time and time again on there by having meltdowns and being easily triggered. You were painfully obvious and your mole on here exposed your Alice Cricket ID to admin. It has nothing to do with being hunted down and nothing to do with being special and EVERYTHING to do with you pissing off admin by breaking their rules and not being welcome because of it. Simple and easy to understand.
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Post by . on Apr 19, 2017 2:22:52 GMT
Any who, laughs aside. Why I remember a chrisp fellow making a thread (or 2) for caylus on GLP. Locked and banned if I recall. Moot point I guess. There was some nasty ass pyschological attacks. Targeted at peoples weak spots, no? Aimed at a persons soft points to make them doubt themselves, or their friends. Anyone who frequented chat, compare and contrast. We may have argued at times, but it didn't degrade to trying to tear others down. What the true story is, who is behind, or their motives are curious questions. So, Sol, when you called Mila vapid and shallow and a bimbo, you didn't degrade and tear her down? When you attacked Facts, you didn't degrade and tear him down? Or TRY to anyway. Because I'd say that was attempting to tear two people down. Tell yourself whatever you need to to justify your actions though.
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