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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 12:03:19 GMT
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Originally I posted my own version on psychosis below past just this update message - to share with you guys about my updated understanding regarding the psychosis but it has not either empirically proved or collectively agreed by a consensus of sort. So, the original content is kept but I have changed this thread title from simply 'Psychosis' to 'Theory on Psychosis', so it is open to all.
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PsychosisIntroductionPsychosis is a group of symptoms experienced by an individual 'perceived' to be having a 'break' with reality [1]. Psychosis is sometime unique and specific to individual, not all individuals share exact or same degree of symptoms. SymptomsHallucination – Perceptive information within or from environment that is either commonly dismissed as not true and / or not shared by other people's perception. Delusion – A belief about something that is either commonly dismissed as not true and / or not shared by other people's belief. Cognitive Problems – A disturbance in thinking that is perceived to be abnormal according to either an individual who has it and / or social. CausePsychosis is caused by conflict between individual and environment. Psychosis happens mostly due to association mechanism, a feature of individual's brain - it associates and sometime disassociate some perception and other information from environment and feedback in logical (sometimes perceived to be illogical) way to individual's cognition as part of understanding process. Treatment First-line Treatment: An individual who has a psychosis episode and is not able to cope or deal with it - should seek immediate support or help from other people close to him or her and a doctor or mental health professional. Dual Treatments: With first treatment in effect, an individual then should try to self-reflect and understand between himself or herself and environment(and people), to express his or her reaction (intellectual and / or emotional) about something in order to find out why psychosis episode happened (informational treatment). At the same time, sometimes depending on each individual's unique and / or degree of symptoms or psychotic condition, an antipsychotic medication is recommended to treat the more negative symptoms (physical treatment). These informational and physical treatment go together. Citation / Reference[1] - www.heretohelp.bc.ca/ask-us/whats-the-difference-between-psychosis-and-schizophrenia
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Post by Caylus Ark on Nov 30, 2016 16:46:47 GMT
Good thread xlegic. Some psychologists believe that the content that becomes manifest during psychotic episodes is not just random stuff, but things of psychological importance that the brain is trying in some distorted way to work through. This relates to my trauma thread on the mind control board because a very large percentage of people who manifest symptoms of psychosis or have psychotic episodes have a history of some sort of trama and sadly because of our mental health system that rarely gets addressed, rather only the symptom gets treated in the form of meds which act faster.
A lot of psychologists are scared of psychosis and lack adequate understanding of what it is and how to deal with. For many of them by their own admission, they treat psychotics badly from a level of fear, they are incapable of emphasizing with the psychotic person and understanding their mental state. When I was having my episode they treated me like I was a dog or some kind of out of control animal - which of course I saw. It was in everything they did, their body posture, the way the tried to corrall me and shoved me in a room despite how scared I was. What was happening in my mind which they did not percieve is I was in a great deal of real pain. I felt very very painful things happening to me and I was scared. I needed, not to be shoved like some obstinate cow but to be assurred that there was nothing to be afraid of. In retrospect this is obvious to me.
I was experiencing sensations - hallucinatory or not they felt real. Being shot, being burned alive, and it felt real to me and of course I was a mess. I was experiencing what it was like to reside in a personal hell dying 1000 times with no physical release from my misary. Of course I could not explain this to the people in the psych ward because my state of distress was so acute I could not communicate it to them. Imagine a person with a ton of wounds trying to explain what was hurting. Obviously too much shit is bleeding, the body goes into shock. Luckily in cases of physical injury the patient need not say anything. The wounds on their body do all the talking. Not so in cases of acute psychological distress like what was happening to me. I could not speak, only dwell within my world of pain.
In response, I tried to escape, in terror, but I was shoved back into the tiny room by many strong adults and sedated with a needle syringe. Not once in that hospital did anyone think to ask me if I was suffering or even why. They just tried to get me on the right dose of meds that my symptoms would seem to disappear. Since my suffering originated in the psyche, none of the meds helped me. Actually they nearly ACTUALLY killed me. Yet, this is our system. This is the depth and the consequence of our inability to understand the intangible realm of the psyche.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 22:12:49 GMT
Good thread xlegic. Some psychologists believe that the content that becomes manifest during psychotic episodes is not just random stuff, but things of psychological importance that the brain is trying in some distorted way to work through. This relates to my trauma thread on the mind control board because a very large percentage of people who manifest symptoms of psychosis or have psychotic episodes have a history of some sort of trama and sadly because of our mental health system that rarely gets addressed, rather only the symptom gets treated in the form of meds which act faster. A lot of psychologists are scared of psychosis and lack adequate understanding of what it is and how to deal with. For many of them by their own admission, they treat psychotics badly from a level of fear, they are incapable of emphasizing with the psychotic person and understanding their mental state. When I was having my episode they treated me like I was a dog or some kind of out of control animal - which of course I saw. It was in everything they did, their body posture, the way the tried to corrall me and shoved me in a room despite how scared I was. What was happening in my mind which they did not percieve is I was in a great deal of real pain. I felt very very painful things happening to me and I was scared. I needed, not to be shoved like some obstinate cow but to be assurred that there was nothing to be afraid of. In retrospect this is obvious to me. I was experiencing sensations - hallucinatory or not they felt real. Being shot, being burned alive, and it felt real to me and of course I was a mess. I was experiencing what it was like to reside in a personal hell dying 1000 times with no physical release from my misary. Of course I could not explain this to the people in the psych ward because my state of distress was so acute I could not communicate it to them. Imagine a person with a ton of wounds trying to explain what was hurting. Obviously too much shit is bleeding, the body goes into shock. Luckily in cases of physical injury the patient need not say anything. The wounds on their body do all the talking. Not so in cases of acute psychological distress like what was happening to me. I could not speak, only dwell within my world of pain. In response, I tried to escape, in terror, but I was shoved back into the tiny room by many strong adults and sedated with a needle syringe. Not once in that hospital did anyone think to ask me if I was suffering or even why. They just tried to get me on the right dose of meds that my symptoms would seem to disappear. Since my suffering originated in the psyche, none of the meds helped me. Actually they nearly ACTUALLY killed me. Yet, this is our system. This is the depth and the consequence of our inability to understand the intangible realm of the psyche. 1. (you) 2.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 4:57:39 GMT
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Post by Caylus Ark on Dec 5, 2016 23:22:07 GMT
It's a difficult concept, Xlegic. In a way all psychosis is both natural and man-made. Psychosis can come from brain chemistry that is out of whack, both a product of an unstable environment and a genetic risk factor. I guess that's what most people would call natural. It can also happen from "exposure". Any person, no matter how sane, will eventually lose their mind after going a long enough time without food or sleep, for instance, or under extreme situations such as torture or stuff like that. Everybody has a breaking point. There is also substance-induced psychosis which is relatively common and often a source of misdiagnosed mental illness. When under prolonged drug influence, and combined with stuff like little sleep and lack of food or excess stimulation, psychosis can occur not as a product of the mind naturally but because of the influence of drugs. That's why drugs are supposed to be considered carefully before psychological professionals decide on a diagnosis. One of the things that occurred to me on GLP was that the place is like a psychosis farm, particularly the paranoid variety. The greater the extent to which you believe others are "out to get you", like in the case of gangstalking, the more likely you are to expend energy on "high alert", suspicious of everyone around you. Because humans are social creatures by nature, isolation from trust and support of a community can be detrimental to mental health. The more paranoid you get, the more you will withdraw and isolate yourself. We see this a lot as people get sucked into GLP and begin to find unnatural synchronicities that makes them believe they are the targets of surveillance or conspiracy. Sometimes mysterious strangers on GLP will appear and say things that nobody should know that relate to our lives. There is a well-known saying: "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you". The danger in that is that if you wanted to make somebody go insane, it would be possible. If you were a hacker for example, you could find intimate details from their computer or webcam and use them to harass your target cryptically. The question being, why would anybody go to the trouble of doing this to a stranger? It's unlikely. To be constantly wary such a thing is happening is likely to promote an unhealthy attitude, increase alarm systems, stress, and risk of psychosis. On the one hand, the sane person will offset their paranoia by being confident that nobody cares about the issue of their personal lives. But if they are continually exposed to weird coincidences, or if there ACTUALLY is somebody messing with their head, it's very likely that after a certain amount of time you could make this person mentally unstable. They'll end up doing something that'll ruin their own credibility, if the gaslighting is real and goes on long enough. They'll end up in prison or in a psych ward. Anybody can be made to snap, with the right amount of dedicated effort. How likely is anybody to experience targeting to the extent of losing their minds? It's not very likely at all. But then again, it's not impossible. We can't live our lives in fear of this, but it may happen to people. It's a fine line. Can we ask ourselves how real it is without going insane in the process ? I used to believe that in order to examine the subject and not become psychotic, you have to stop caring whether or not there are people out there watching you. Be okay whether or not paranoid ideas have a basis in reality. That was how I handled sanity on GLP for as long as I did, but even that only went so far.... Social scripts are how people know what to expect in day to day life. People around us are on script. The cashier is friendly and helpful, we say "excuse me" when we bump into people, we know instinctively that if possible we ought to give strangers in public a bubble of personal space and we know instinctively when is "too close" with a stranger. We are wired this way the same way we are wired for learning language. It's natural, unconscious and powerful. We learn it in our culture as we grow up. So, what happens when we are in a situation where people willingly defy social convention? It is extremely confusing, because once people go off script, "anything goes". We don't know what to expect. Let's say somebody in a work environment, a coworker, is loudly and intentionally interrupting you every time you get midway into your sentence. The second you stop talking they go silent. You are in a room full of other coworkers and employees. All of them act as if nothing strange is happening. What would you do? What would you think? Do you think eventually your mind would stop working, like a stuck gear, and you'd sit blankly, just staring at them? Or start yelling loudly, asking what the hell was going on? Probably, after awhile. My point is that intrinsically, psychosis is an antisocial behavior. But also, that antisocial behavior could probably produce a degree of psychosis. How do we measure whether we are "going crazy" or not? Necessarily, we must compare ourselves to the behavior of others in order to decide whether we fit the bill of the norm or are "acting strange". If the people around you give you no basis for comparison, if they act in such a way that makes it unclear how you are expected to behave, the effect is severe, especially in a situation where established social conventions exist, such as school or work. It may not ever happen, but you could conceivably ask a group of people to deliberately fuck with one person. Now, to believe people are doing this is downright dangerous thinking. But to believe it cannot be done, is pure delusion. It could be done, and it would be very, very effective.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 9:29:19 GMT
It's a difficult concept, Xlegic. In a way all psychosis is both natural and man-made. Psychosis can come from brain chemistry that is out of whack, both a product of an unstable environment and a genetic risk factor. I guess that's what most people would call natural. It can also happen from "exposure". Any person, no matter how sane, will eventually lose their mind after going a long enough time without food or sleep, for instance, or under extreme situations such as torture or stuff like that. Everybody has a breaking point. There is also substance-induced psychosis which is relatively common and often a source of misdiagnosed mental illness. When under prolonged drug influence, and combined with stuff like little sleep and lack of food or excess stimulation, psychosis can occur not as a product of the mind naturally but because of the influence of drugs. That's why drugs are supposed to be considered carefully before psychological professionals decide on a diagnosis. One of the things that occurred to me on GLP was that the place is like a psychosis farm, particularly the paranoid variety. The greater the extent to which you believe others are "out to get you", like in the case of gangstalking, the more likely you are to expend energy on "high alert", suspicious of everyone around you. Because humans are social creatures by nature, isolation from trust and support of a community can be detrimental to mental health. The more paranoid you get, the more you will withdraw and isolate yourself. We see this a lot as people get sucked into GLP and begin to find unnatural synchronicities that makes them believe they are the targets of surveillance or conspiracy. Sometimes mysterious strangers on GLP will appear and say things that nobody should know that relate to our lives. There is a well-known saying: "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you". The danger in that is that if you wanted to make somebody go insane, it would be possible. If you were a hacker for example, you could find intimate details from their computer or webcam and use them to harass your target cryptically. The question being, why would anybody go to the trouble of doing this to a stranger? It's unlikely. To be constantly wary such a thing is happening is likely to promote an unhealthy attitude, increase alarm systems, stress, and risk of psychosis. On the one hand, the sane person will offset their paranoia by being confident that nobody cares about the issue of their personal lives. But if they are continually exposed to weird coincidences, or if there ACTUALLY is somebody messing with their head, it's very likely that after a certain amount of time you could make this person mentally unstable. They'll end up doing something that'll ruin their own credibility, if the gaslighting is real and goes on long enough. They'll end up in prison or in a psych ward. Anybody can be made to snap, with the right amount of dedicated effort. How likely is anybody to experience targeting to the extent of losing their minds? It's not very likely at all. But then again, it's not impossible. We can't live our lives in fear of this, but it may happen to people. It's a fine line. Can we ask ourselves how real it is without going insane in the process ? I used to believe that in order to examine the subject and not become psychotic, you have to stop caring whether or not there are people out there watching you. Be okay whether or not paranoid ideas have a basis in reality. That was how I handled sanity on GLP for as long as I did, but even that only went so far.... Social scripts are how people know what to expect in day to day life. People around us are on script. The cashier is friendly and helpful, we say "excuse me" when we bump into people, we know instinctively that if possible we ought to give strangers in public a bubble of personal space and we know instinctively when is "too close" with a stranger. We are wired this way the same way we are wired for learning language. It's natural, unconscious and powerful. We learn it in our culture as we grow up. So, what happens when we are in a situation where people willingly defy social convention? It is extremely confusing, because once people go off script, "anything goes". We don't know what to expect. Let's say somebody in a work environment, a coworker, is loudly and intentionally interrupting you every time you get midway into your sentence. The second you stop talking they go silent. You are in a room full of other coworkers and employees. All of them act as if nothing strange is happening. What would you do? What would you think? Do you think eventually your mind would stop working, like a stuck gear, and you'd sit blankly, just staring at them? Or start yelling loudly, asking what the hell was going on? Probably, after awhile. My point is that intrinsically, psychosis is an antisocial behavior. But also, that antisocial behavior could probably produce a degree of psychosis. How do we measure whether we are "going crazy" or not? Necessarily, we must compare ourselves to the behavior of others in order to decide whether we fit the bill of the norm or are "acting strange". If the people around you give you no basis for comparison, if they act in such a way that makes it unclear how you are expected to behave, the effect is severe, especially in a situation where established social conventions exist, such as school or work. It may not ever happen, but you could conceivably ask a group of people to deliberately fuck with one person. Now, to believe people are doing this is downright dangerous thinking. But to believe it cannot be done, is pure delusion. It could be done, and it would be very, very effective. I'm still a bit puzzled about why I originally posted the first post that started this thread. Looking back at it, it just seems to be a premature action as I don't really fully understand about the nature of psychosis except slightly better with the above quoted post you wrote. I hope that if the next time I have another psychosis episode, I will be able to deal with it more better.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Dec 16, 2016 6:28:48 GMT
I'm still a bit puzzled about why I originally posted the first post that started this thread. Looking back at it, it just seems to be a premature action as I don't really fully understand about the nature of psychosis except slightly better with the above quoted post you wrote. I hope that if the next time I have another psychosis episode, I will be able to deal with it more better. xlegic, it is never easy to deal with psychotic episodes. I know firsthand how painful and traumatic it can be. But the things that we experience in our psychotic episodes aren't random either, they are important psychological information about ourselves and while it can feel shameful, it's stuff that you should take with you because it means something to you, otherwise you wouldn't have experienced it. Just know that you aren't alone, and you aren't "crazy" - we are in this together.
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