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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 5:03:12 GMT
 I can't seem to make up my damn mind about God/The-Source. I've been struggling and having back to forth and so on thoughts about Him/Her/It. Just wondering if some of you guys are willing to pitch in your thoughts about him/her/it.. I've been trying to get back into doing 3D animation/illustration but can't seem to do so, because of these thoughts about existential questions and god/the source... keep getting in the way. I mean, yeah I'm probably not only one here.. some of you guys and others are probably in the same boat as I am. But.. maybe some of you guys already are ahead and might have something to say regarding him/her/it.. then maybe I will understand better and move on or something like that. |
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Post by Caylus Ark on Sept 3, 2016 5:10:17 GMT
Okay...I know your struggle here. I went through a bunch of weird existential crises. I believe that the source of all things is greater then our ability to comprehend, and that we are fractal seeds of it, in the process of discovering ourself. I believe the source was a whole thing that made itself broken in order to experience difference facets of consciousness, and that consciousness is sort of the organic 'soup' of the field which we inhabit and which makes the sensory data in matter take on an experiential quality. Basically, that that 'life spark' is what is primary - not tertiary, in what is 'real' in the sense of what is 'absolute' and the building blocks of those qualities is what some call 'the source', which occupies every possibility at once, in all things, everywhere, 'the shining' radiance, uncompleted, etc - we can never fully embody it, because that is why what was whole was made broken, so that plants have a direction to grow, and that rain had a direction to fall... one thing differentiated from the other. The source is the place where contrary forces interpose, resolving themselves in a new paradigm. The source is where that 'divine' AHA comes from - the vision of the visionary - it's like the embedded fractal of all living breathing things seeking beauty and love, to aspire higher and to do better by those around them, that is the impulse of the source.
It's not something that can be - really understood intellectually, nor does it have to in order to operate. Pure metaphysical dynamics exist outside the necessity of something like this, but in order to grasp spirituality on the level of the soul, it has to permeate one's field of existence. It is known in the thickness of geometry it brings to all facets of creation. There are many ways of conceptualizing it, but once you stop attempting to be certain about it, it is the self-revealed principle that need not be spoken of.
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Post by Source on Sept 6, 2016 20:21:36 GMT
Do you think, feel, believe or know that there is a Creator?
imho that must be settled first.
I agree with you Caylus, my direct experience is that the human mind can only grasp - intellectually - scientifically - very little of the whole of what Creator is.
What I know is this: Creator exists.
All things reside within Creator.
Through Creator all living things, systems of nature, the cosmos, throughout time, and now - reality continues, breathes... Think of this like your own body, most of which works without your direct attention...yet continues to operate.
Most of what is said/written/known about Creator is incorrect. Some are intentional lies, much is simply missing, much is what is desired by humans, etc... it would be better to discard everything ever written about Creator than not...
There is one Creator, and nothing else - no Satan, no demons, no angels, no hierarchies, no demiurges - Creator may have had more than one Avatar, Creator may have been known as different representations to different cultures over time... but all of those were always one Being.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Sept 8, 2016 7:15:51 GMT
Do you think, feel, believe or know that there is a Creator? imho that must be settled first. I agree with you Caylus, my direct experience is that the human mind can only grasp - intellectually - scientifically - very little of the whole of what Creator is. What I know is this: Creator exists. All things reside within Creator. Through Creator all living things, systems of nature, the cosmos, throughout time, and now - reality continues, breathes... Think of this like your own body, most of which works without your direct attention...yet continues to operate. Most of what is said/written/known about Creator is incorrect. Some are intentional lies, much is simply missing, much is what is desired by humans, etc... it would be better to discard everything ever written about Creator than not... There is one Creator, and nothing else - no Satan, no demons, no angels, no hierarchies, no demiurges - Creator may have had more than one Avatar, Creator may have been known as different representations to different cultures over time... but all of those were always one Being. I agree, I think the things like angels and demons and hierarchy which serves to separate the creator from the creation are offshoots of corruption... But I think that part of what makes us humans special is that we have a unique place among cosmogony. |
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Post by Source on Sept 8, 2016 23:06:17 GMT
Do you think, feel, believe or know that there is a Creator? imho that must be settled first. I agree with you Caylus, my direct experience is that the human mind can only grasp - intellectually - scientifically - very little of the whole of what Creator is. What I know is this: Creator exists. All things reside within Creator. Through Creator all living things, systems of nature, the cosmos, throughout time, and now - reality continues, breathes... Think of this like your own body, most of which works without your direct attention...yet continues to operate. Most of what is said/written/known about Creator is incorrect. Some are intentional lies, much is simply missing, much is what is desired by humans, etc... it would be better to discard everything ever written about Creator than not... There is one Creator, and nothing else - no Satan, no demons, no angels, no hierarchies, no demiurges - Creator may have had more than one Avatar, Creator may have been known as different representations to different cultures over time... but all of those were always one Being. I agree, I think the things like angels and demons and hierarchy which serves to separate the creator from the creation are offshoots of corruption... But I think that part of what makes us humans special is that we have a unique place among cosmogony. Beyond the 'corruption' I think there is something to be said about each eon or age or epoch and the associated avatars having a style of that fits that age. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 9:13:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 0:20:26 GMT
Okay...I know your struggle here. I went through a bunch of weird existential crises. I believe that the source of all things is greater then our ability to comprehend, and that we are fractal seeds of it, in the process of discovering ourself. I believe the source was a whole thing that made itself broken in order to experience difference facets of consciousness, and that consciousness is sort of the organic 'soup' of the field which we inhabit and which makes the sensory data in matter take on an experiential quality. Basically, that that 'life spark' is what is primary - not tertiary, in what is 'real' in the sense of what is 'absolute' and the building blocks of those qualities is what some call 'the source', which occupies every possibility at once, in all things, everywhere, 'the shining' radiance, uncompleted, etc - we can never fully embody it, because that is why what was whole was made broken, so that plants have a direction to grow, and that rain had a direction to fall... one thing differentiated from the other. The source is the place where contrary forces interpose, resolving themselves in a new paradigm. The source is where that 'divine' AHA comes from - the vision of the visionary - it's like the embedded fractal of all living breathing things seeking beauty and love, to aspire higher and to do better by those around them, that is the impulse of the source. It's not something that can be - really understood intellectually, nor does it have to in order to operate. Pure metaphysical dynamics exist outside the necessity of something like this, but in order to grasp spirituality on the level of the soul, it has to permeate one's field of existence. It is known in the thickness of geometry it brings to all facets of creation. There are many ways of conceptualizing it, but once you stop attempting to be certain about it, it is the self-revealed principle that need not be spoken of. This reality/universe is.. hellish place to survive in: 1. Constantly having to survive and fear 2. Wars over differences 3. Health and mental problems 4. Slavery 5. Money system 6. and importantly, no progression of sort.. (eg ascension or transformation). Generally speaking, why does The Source or God prolonged suffering for mortal beings till death? Once lessons have been learned, it takes practice and patience to fully absorb those lessons (eg being conditioned not to repeat mistakes too much) but the prolonged suffering thing till death just doesn't make sense. So, why? When being conditioned in a certain way and with actions deemed as being 'right' (lessons learned) then.. what next? Nothing happen. Things are the way things are till death. Once some of people who are intellectually superior and even perhaps enlightened about the nature of reality, they irrevocably remain human till death and / or nothing cool or exciting things happen to them (as seemingly so for the last thousands of years or more, as secondly or indirectly evidenced so far). That means no progression. "oh ya get rewards in the end (ie death)." - or something like that.. but.. why long waiting and prolonged suffering? Once we suffer to some degree and we actually learn lessons, we continue our existence with suffering and pain till death. I'm being quite frank and sincere about this post cause its for many people, animals, insects, and so on.. out there on this Earth planet and possibly everywhere (eg aliens, etc). Why prolonged suffering, exceeding the necessitated experiences?  |
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