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Post by Quick Reply on Aug 9, 2016 9:12:54 GMT
Im just saying being myself and knowing where I am actually employed, you look extremely silly from where I am sitting...and I am already pretty silly
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 9, 2016 9:21:18 GMT
Im just saying being myself and knowing where I am actually employed, you look extremely silly from where I am sitting...and I am already pretty silly Unless you think you know more about me then I do?
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Post by Quick Reply on Aug 9, 2016 9:29:03 GMT
I know more than you want to say.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 9, 2016 9:44:25 GMT
I know more than you want to say. You're just pulling stuff out your butt.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 9, 2016 9:44:47 GMT
Anu's
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Post by Amadeus on Aug 9, 2016 9:52:14 GMT
to bring ourselves up to date modern man shape sparked into shape the shape we are today approx 50000 years ago prior to that our ancestors or something where all not our shape no matter how far back we go past 50000 years structure and function can never be separated we are different from all shapes that sparked into life before we did = our habits are unlike any ancestors or visitors here
our ancestors or visitors to gaia prior to 50000 years ago achieved success , with obvious ease, planetary engineering within social engineering infrastucture projects that prompts the notion of worship them within almost every person living upon Gaia today that is prompted to search Google and look for themselves
what we discovered when we went into space in our late last century changed all of that /z\ because we discovered we could from space discover how this was done and why it was done and in discovering that we discovered what we are yet to become how we explain that to ourselves is where we are today
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Post by Quick Reply on Aug 9, 2016 10:21:13 GMT
to bring ourselves up to date modern man shape sparked into shape the shape we are today approx 50000 years ago prior to that our ancestors or something where all not our shape no matter how far back we go past 50000 years structure and function can never be separated we are different from all shapes that sparked into life before we did = our habits are unlike any ancestors or visitors here our ancestors or visitors to gaia prior to 50000 years ago achieved success , with obvious ease, planetary engineering within social engineering infrastucture projects that prompts the notion of worship them within almost every person living upon Gaia today that is prompted to search Google and look for themselves what we discovered when we went into space in our late last century changed all of that /z\ because we discovered we could from space discover how this was done and why it was done and in discovering that we discovered what we are yet to become how we explain that to ourselves is where we are today Does the way of "becoming" determines what will we become?
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Post by Amadeus on Aug 9, 2016 10:39:16 GMT
yes its labeled free will locally (Gaia)
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Post by Quick Reply on Aug 9, 2016 10:42:41 GMT
yes its labeled free will locally (Gaia) I didn't understand. Yes it determines? Or no, it doesn't, we have free will?
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Post by ben on Aug 9, 2016 12:43:31 GMT
The only difference between a prostitute and a monarch is that the prostitute is an honest whore. ....which sells some of the highest of human values and corrupt one of the pillars of society with their actions. And you know that is truth. Just look at our society today and you will see superficiality and cheapness spread by various kinds of prostitutes, from Kim Kardashian to the Catholic church. I am not surprise that you guys defend prostitutes because the organization you belong to is the biggest one. I dont know about monarchs, seriously dont cant care less, but if they intentions were pure they will put a child on the throne as a representation of joy, not oye as a representation of weakness in character. You are more corrupted than monarchy you are fighting against, but it is much less obvious, only because you have less earthly power in your hands. But ok, even thats is good.... because your power will last shorter than monarchies and we will see that you are dumber even than they were, so we can finally as humanity begin to look for some better way to bring this planet to collective joy. Gawd, I'm literally torn as to how to get to you, I know I won't so even writing this is futile, but hey, hope dies last. I was like you once! Not to long ago actually. Saw all the negativity, the lusciousness, the lewdness, the temptation, distraction, jelousy, greed, fear and so many more things which, if viewed exlusively, paint a very grimm picture of our society and its current state of affairs. I used to think, how could this have happend? After all I was judging my peers through my own moral standards, which in turn were breddy high up there. Add a selective memory, which painted a rather innocent picture of myself, and you get a human which mirrors us. The prison of my mind, which was created through all this and a little more, kept me spinning on the spot, because lets face it, the world is not going to change, however much we wish for it, without each and everyone making that change in the first place. The "we" you talk about in your last sentence, the "we" that should look for a better way to bring this planet to collective joy, that "we", includes you. Mang, I swear - I was exactly like you! But I had only to blame myself, after all, all I did was "hope" for a change, I wasn't doing anything to bring that change. But somehow I made that curve, and it started (like Caylus said) with me breaking out of the mindprison, which btw. I was actively working on subconciously to keep the status quo - being me not having to change my views - myself, I had to first and foremost accept my own faults (which I artistically ignored and repressed as mentioned before). And honestly THAT is the hardest part about chaning the world. You have to become harmonized with who and what you are, negatives included, to feel a "base-level" joy in your own life. And from here on out everything else will pretty much fall in place on its own, even the collective joy you ache for. If you are happy with yourself, others will be too, it goes viral. People in your immediate environment will become happier, opportunities for new heights open up due to everyone being at peace. blablablabla I could write three essays about all this. Well, what can I say? Painting the world black and white, to justify your own inability to produce change in yourself, is plainly wrong. So, do the right thing, take a left turn - things will suddenly appear in a new light if you view them from another perspective.
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Post by Quick Reply on Aug 9, 2016 13:15:16 GMT
....which sells some of the highest of human values and corrupt one of the pillars of society with their actions. And you know that is truth. Just look at our society today and you will see superficiality and cheapness spread by various kinds of prostitutes, from Kim Kardashian to the Catholic church. I am not surprise that you guys defend prostitutes because the organization you belong to is the biggest one. I dont know about monarchs, seriously dont cant care less, but if they intentions were pure they will put a child on the throne as a representation of joy, not oye as a representation of weakness in character. You are more corrupted than monarchy you are fighting against, but it is much less obvious, only because you have less earthly power in your hands. But ok, even thats is good.... because your power will last shorter than monarchies and we will see that you are dumber even than they were, so we can finally as humanity begin to look for some better way to bring this planet to collective joy. Gawd, I'm literally torn as to how to get to you, I know I won't so even writing this is futile, but hey, hope dies last. I was like you once! Not to long ago actually. Saw all the negativity, the lusciousness, the lewdness, the temptation, distraction, jelousy, greed, fear and so many more things which, if viewed exlusively, paint a very grimm picture of our society and its current state of affairs. I used to think, how could this have happend? After all I was judging my peers through my own moral standards, which in turn were breddy high up there. Add a selective memory, which painted a rather innocent picture of myself, and you get a human which mirrors us. The prison of my mind, which was created through all this and a little more, kept me spinning on the spot, because lets face it, the world is not going to change, however much we wish for it, without each and everyone making that change in the first place. The "we" you talk about in your last sentence, the "we" that should look for a better way to bring this planet to collective joy, that "we", includes you. Mang, I swear - I was exactly like you! But I had only to blame myself, after all, all I did was "hope" for a change, I wasn't doing anything to bring that change. But somehow I made that curve, and it started (like Caylus said) with me breaking out of the mindprison, which btw. I was actively working on subconciously to keep the status quo - being me not having to change my views - myself, I had to first and foremost accept my own faults (which I artistically ignored and repressed as mentioned before). And honestly THAT is the hardest part about chaning the world. You have to become harmonized with who and what you are, negatives included, to feel a "base-level" joy in your own life. And from here on out everything else will pretty much fall in place on its own, even the collective joy you ache for. If you are happy with yourself, others will be too, it goes viral. People in your immediate environment will become happier, opportunities for new heights open up due to everyone being at peace. blablablabla I could write three essays about all this. Well, what can I say? Painting the world black and white, to justify your own inability to produce change in yourself, is plainly wrong. So, do the right thing, take a left turn - things will suddenly appear in a new light if you view them from another perspective. Left turn is left hand path? I dont expect honest answer because "left hand pathers" never do that, but I must ask. Ok, I appreciate your insight, sounds honest, but I just cant agree with life gives you representation on what you are. I cant say that isn't true, just that it doesn't sound likely to me, but ok maybe I am not objective, must admit that. But the theme is not about me, but jesuits/illuminati (Tavistock, SRI) and why they put a prostitute on the throne to represent their highest value. In my opinion that is important and that kind of symbology can represent the path, "screw all the values I will take money, I will take what I need" kind of path. If they only wanted nonsensical system there is much more creative ways to demonstrate their value (value outside the system in the true sense) and not humiliate opponents, but they have chosen that particular symbol and their behavior has remained the same over the centuries. This attitude alone makes huge problems without any real reason. And it can be better .Only one thing is missing. Effort to understand, not effort to destroy. Empathy.It is one and the same. Or is that representation of my interior too? All the pain in the world is just me projecting that? Should the pain in the world stop if I just kill myself? Im not trying to mocking the concept, just to understand.
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Post by ben on Aug 9, 2016 13:45:00 GMT
Gawd, I'm literally torn as to how to get to you, I know I won't so even writing this is futile, but hey, hope dies last. I was like you once! Not to long ago actually. Saw all the negativity, the lusciousness, the lewdness, the temptation, distraction, jelousy, greed, fear and so many more things which, if viewed exlusively, paint a very grimm picture of our society and its current state of affairs. I used to think, how could this have happend? After all I was judging my peers through my own moral standards, which in turn were breddy high up there. Add a selective memory, which painted a rather innocent picture of myself, and you get a human which mirrors us. The prison of my mind, which was created through all this and a little more, kept me spinning on the spot, because lets face it, the world is not going to change, however much we wish for it, without each and everyone making that change in the first place. The "we" you talk about in your last sentence, the "we" that should look for a better way to bring this planet to collective joy, that "we", includes you. Mang, I swear - I was exactly like you! But I had only to blame myself, after all, all I did was "hope" for a change, I wasn't doing anything to bring that change. But somehow I made that curve, and it started (like Caylus said) with me breaking out of the mindprison, which btw. I was actively working on subconciously to keep the status quo - being me not having to change my views - myself, I had to first and foremost accept my own faults (which I artistically ignored and repressed as mentioned before). And honestly THAT is the hardest part about chaning the world. You have to become harmonized with who and what you are, negatives included, to feel a "base-level" joy in your own life. And from here on out everything else will pretty much fall in place on its own, even the collective joy you ache for. If you are happy with yourself, others will be too, it goes viral. People in your immediate environment will become happier, opportunities for new heights open up due to everyone being at peace. blablablabla I could write three essays about all this. Well, what can I say? Painting the world black and white, to justify your own inability to produce change in yourself, is plainly wrong. So, do the right thing, take a left turn - things will suddenly appear in a new light if you view them from another perspective. Left turn is left hand path? I dont expect honest answer because "left hand pathers" never do that, but I must ask. Ok, I appreciate your insight, sounds honest, but I just cant agree with life gives you representation on what you are. I cant say that isn't true, just that it doesn't sound likely to me, but ok maybe I am not objective, must admit that. But the theme is not about me, but jesuits/illuminati (Tavistock, SRI) and why they put a prostitute on the throne to represent their highest value. In my opinion that is important and that kind of symbology can represent the path, "screw all the values I will take money, I will take what I need" kind of path. If they only wanted nonsensical system there is much more creative ways to demonstrate their value (value outside the system in the true sense) and not humiliate opponents, but they have chosen that particular symbol and their behavior has remained the same over the centuries. This attitude alone makes huge problems without any real reason. And it can be better .Only one thing is missing. Effort to understand, not effort to destroy. Empathy.It is one and the same. Or is that representation of my interior too? All the pain in the world is just me projecting that? Should the pain in the world stop if I just kill myself? Im not trying to mocking the concept, just to understand. 4 Hey mang, thanks for providing a soundtrack while I write this! To be really honest with you, I have pretty much zero knowledge on a lot of mystic and esoteric stuff. See, I don't even know what a "left hand path" is, would have to google but I think it's not important. Meant to say, if you're spinning in circles, maybe change your rotation, it just gives you a broader perspective. And to stay in the metaphorical - you even stop, even if just for a millisecond, when you circle the other way around. You will still be spinning, but you will instinctively know that there is more than rotating left or right. There is a center, balance, stillness. I'm still starting to spin sometimes when I get to emotionally involved in things, but I've found a nice and cozy spot in the middle, i did not stop rotating, but I don't make full laps anymore, I spin from half right to half left to half right. Imagine me laying in a hammock which is tied on the extended centerpoint of a clock. I'm just swinging from 3 oclock to 9 oclock and back. Sometimes I even manage to find that magical spot at 6, but usually my own desires keep me dangling back and forth. And no, of course you are not projecting everything, there are A LOT of people doing stuff to further their own wealth or views which can sometimes literally turn into walking over dead bodies. See the politics of the Nestle conglomerate for example. Or currently the venezuelan food crisis which is a simple aftereffect of corruption and greed among their political class. Heck the whole european finance-crisis was triggerd by greek politicians and industrials who got help from foreign investors (goldmann-sachs etc.) to rig their books so they could enter the eurozone to get cheap credit through the common currency (I wrote a literal essay about this whole incident, analysing it thouroughly). Most if not all "crisis" or manmade catastrophes can be lead back to such practices, some do it for power, some for money, some for fame, you name it. Anything can be an incentive for negativity if desired beyond the point where you restrict the freedom of others. And how do you change peoples minds which only spin one way? People which incidentally are in some position of power which again, can range from anything to everything. The beautifull are in a position of power over those whom desire it. The wealthy are in a position of power over those who desire it or lack it. The lawmakers to those whom are subject to it. "Power" is a very vague word, often used synonymous for anything which lies beyond ones grasps. Gahh, I don't know where I want to go with this. Listend to your song 4 times already, very smooth. Me likey!
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Post by Montblanc on Aug 9, 2016 17:25:19 GMT
The only difference between a prostitute and a monarch is that the prostitute is an honest whore. ....which sells some of the highest of human values and corrupt one of the pillars of society with their actions. And you know that is truth. Just look at our society today and you will see superficiality and cheapness spread by various kinds of prostitutes, from Kim Kardashian to the Catholic church. I am not surprise that you guys defend prostitutes because the organization you belong to is the biggest one. I dont know about monarchs, seriously dont cant care less, but if they intentions were pure they will put a child on the throne as a representation of joy, not oye as a representation of weakness in character. You are more corrupted than monarchy you are fighting against, but it is much less obvious, only because you have less earthly power in your hands. But ok, even thats is good.... because your power will last shorter than monarchies and we will see that you are dumber even than they were, so we can finally as humanity begin to look for some better way to bring this planet to collective joy. Keyword "if", as you said, you don't know about monarchies, nor about me. You know nothing Jon Snow.
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Post by Montblanc on Aug 9, 2016 17:38:53 GMT
Gawd, I'm literally torn as to how to get to you, I know I won't so even writing this is futile, but hey, hope dies last. I was like you once! Not to long ago actually. Saw all the negativity, the lusciousness, the lewdness, the temptation, distraction, jelousy, greed, fear and so many more things which, if viewed exlusively, paint a very grimm picture of our society and its current state of affairs. I used to think, how could this have happend? After all I was judging my peers through my own moral standards, which in turn were breddy high up there. Add a selective memory, which painted a rather innocent picture of myself, and you get a human which mirrors us. The prison of my mind, which was created through all this and a little more, kept me spinning on the spot, because lets face it, the world is not going to change, however much we wish for it, without each and everyone making that change in the first place. The "we" you talk about in your last sentence, the "we" that should look for a better way to bring this planet to collective joy, that "we", includes you. Mang, I swear - I was exactly like you! But I had only to blame myself, after all, all I did was "hope" for a change, I wasn't doing anything to bring that change. But somehow I made that curve, and it started (like Caylus said) with me breaking out of the mindprison, which btw. I was actively working on subconciously to keep the status quo - being me not having to change my views - myself, I had to first and foremost accept my own faults (which I artistically ignored and repressed as mentioned before). And honestly THAT is the hardest part about chaning the world. You have to become harmonized with who and what you are, negatives included, to feel a "base-level" joy in your own life. And from here on out everything else will pretty much fall in place on its own, even the collective joy you ache for. If you are happy with yourself, others will be too, it goes viral. People in your immediate environment will become happier, opportunities for new heights open up due to everyone being at peace. blablablabla I could write three essays about all this. Well, what can I say? Painting the world black and white, to justify your own inability to produce change in yourself, is plainly wrong. So, do the right thing, take a left turn - things will suddenly appear in a new light if you view them from another perspective. Left turn is left hand path? I dont expect honest answer because "left hand pathers" never do that, but I must ask. Ok, I appreciate your insight, sounds honest, but I just cant agree with life gives you representation on what you are. I cant say that isn't true, just that it doesn't sound likely to me, but ok maybe I am not objective, must admit that. But the theme is not about me, but jesuits/illuminati (Tavistock, SRI) and why they put a prostitute on the throne to represent their highest value. In my opinion that is important and that kind of symbology can represent the path, "screw all the values I will take money, I will take what I need" kind of path. If they only wanted nonsensical system there is much more creative ways to demonstrate their value (value outside the system in the true sense) and not humiliate opponents, but they have chosen that particular symbol and their behavior has remained the same over the centuries. This attitude alone makes huge problems without any real reason. And it can be better .Only one thing is missing. Effort to understand, not effort to destroy. Empathy.It is one and the same. Or is that representation of my interior too? All the pain in the world is just me projecting that? Should the pain in the world stop if I just kill myself? Im not trying to mocking the concept, just to understand. I'm left handed, and these stupid references offend me
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 10, 2016 1:01:13 GMT
The Left-Handed path refers symbolically to the 'satanist' route of 'black' magick, left hand is, 'the sinister hand'...
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Post by Therin on Aug 10, 2016 1:06:40 GMT
The left handed path is the path a stalker takes. The right handed path is the path a dreamer takes. The left side is the nagual. The right side is the tonal.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 10, 2016 1:07:27 GMT
The left handed path is the path a stalker takes. The right handed path is the path a dreamer takes. The left side is the nagual. The right side is the tonal. Ah. That is a better description, symbolically speaking. It's not a question of good and evil insomuch as it is a question of balance.
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Post by Montblanc on Aug 10, 2016 2:40:22 GMT
The left handed path is the path a stalker takes. The right handed path is the path a dreamer takes. The left side is the nagual. The right side is the tonal. Ah. That is a better description, symbolically speaking. It's not a question of good and evil insomuch as it is a question of balance. Btw guys, my last post was me trying to humour. As someone who's read occult books I have stumbled upon this right-left hand thing, and I can safely say it's mostly a post-Crowley thing that some people who should know better have empolated in an attempt to sell old material as new. The correlation between sinister and left comes from latin where sinistra means left, right is dextra btw. And as you can see, in the english, and post-roman period latin languages, the words for directional points started to correlate right with correct, and left with wrong. This I suspect was due to heavy superstition brought on with the dark ages. I really am left-handed, and I can assure you the only special thing about it is that I look extremely awkward with certain objects, like a pair of scissors.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Aug 10, 2016 2:42:36 GMT
Ah. That is a better description, symbolically speaking. It's not a question of good and evil insomuch as it is a question of balance. Btw guys, my last post was me trying to humour. As someone who's read occult books I have stumbled upon this right-left hand thing, and I can safely say it's mostly a post-Crowley thing that some people who should know better have empolated in an attempt to sell old material as new. The correlation between sinister and left comes from latin where sinistra means left, right is dextra btw. And as you can see, in the english, and post-roman period latin languages, the words for directional points started to correlate right with correct, and left with wrong. This I suspect was due to heavy superstition brought on with the dark ages. I really am left-handed, and I can assure you the only special thing about it is that I look extremely awkward with certain objects, like a pair of scissors. Interesting. Somehow the word itself at its latin root (sinist-), came to be associated with evil. I have often wondered, if that which we consider evil is misunderstood. That's actually funny, as it brings us back full circle to the meaning of these threads OYE made to begin with - That is, the redemption of the fallen angels.
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Post by Montblanc on Aug 10, 2016 2:53:44 GMT
Btw guys, my last post was me trying to humour. As someone who's read occult books I have stumbled upon this right-left hand thing, and I can safely say it's mostly a post-Crowley thing that some people who should know better have empolated in an attempt to sell old material as new. The correlation between sinister and left comes from latin where sinistra means left, right is dextra btw. And as you can see, in the english, and post-roman period latin languages, the words for directional points started to correlate right with correct, and left with wrong. This I suspect was due to heavy superstition brought on with the dark ages. I really am left-handed, and I can assure you the only special thing about it is that I look extremely awkward with certain objects, like a pair of scissors. Interesting. Somehow the word itself at its latin root (sinist-), came to be associated with evil. I have often wondered, if that which we consider evil is misunderstood. That's actually funny, as it brings us back full circle to the meaning of these threads OYE made to begin with - That is, the redemption of the fallen angels. From what I have studied these things are related with the rise of christianity, as it became a radicalized movement it was overrun with fanaticism and superstition born from ignorance. I guess even an enlightened leader can't do much in terms of damage control when he has to cater to the irrational needs of a raging mob. A good film which offers some perspective on this is "Agora".
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