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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:11:56 GMT
Kinda of.. but the path to drinking the Kool-Aid starts with the best of intentions Yeah but unlike some others I actually am super educated about cults and the things that can make cults dangerous (not all cults are dangerous or even bad). Alright.. I am going to TEST your Knowledge List 5 signs of a cult.. and 5 things that make cults dangerous
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:13:25 GMT
1: withdrawal [moderate], isolation, superstitious, believes oneself in possession of a sixth sense, recurrent ‘illusions’ (feeling invisible paranormal influences or presence)
2: problems differentiating consensus reality from personal consciousness or group/cult consciousness. integration of fantasy with logic. odd/delirious religious ideas or nihilism. blunt, abrasive, inappropriate manner of relating to others and speaking.
3: adamant defensiveness with delirious topics. appearance of living a hermetic life while maintaining minimal contact with the outside world. deterioration of job performance, personal relationships, and hygiene (as is often seen in cases of mental illness)
4: psychotic break – loss of contact with consensus reality, total immersion in cult ideas. Unable to criticize or notice illusions. Logic is replaced by delirious narrative.
5: total dissociation/loss of structure. life is constant paranoid delirium. paraphrenia. aggravation, inconsistency in behavior. disorganization, loss of coherency.
6 (generally pretty uncommon to get here except in cases of severe and prolonged mental trauma): Heboidphrenia. loss of original personality. catatonic stupor. catatonic position/rigidity. “spaltung”/fission.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:14:45 GMT
Of course I believe in actual sixth senses, but there you have it by definition.
Mythomania brings out a character that replaces the mediocrity of reality with a seductive game intended to attract followers by giving them something new to identify with.
At the more advanced stages of the disorders, the subject is caught ‘between two worlds’, the unreal cult world and that of social reality. He sees himself as the product of ‘a mutation’ which places him apart from other humans while still being human. … Feelings of strangeness and unreality, characteristic of depersonalization disorders, increase.
…Sometimes the disorders manifest only in intermediate states involving just one psychic sector … The cult member thus may be unable to drudge up memories of one element or isolated episode of his life, creating a partial amnesia that generally corresponds to denial of past reality…
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:17:51 GMT
1: withdrawal [moderate], isolation, superstitious, believes oneself in possession of a sixth sense, recurrent ‘illusions’ (feeling invisible paranormal influences or presence) 2: problems differentiating consensus reality from personal consciousness or group/cult consciousness. integration of fantasy with logic. odd/delirious religious ideas or nihilism. blunt, abrasive, inappropriate manner of relating to others and speaking. 3: adamant defensiveness with delirious topics. appearance of living a hermetic life while maintaining minimal contact with the outside world. deterioration of job performance, personal relationships, and hygiene (as is often seen in cases of mental illness) 4: psychotic break – loss of contact with consensus reality, total immersion in cult ideas. Unable to criticize or notice illusions. Logic is replaced by delirious narrative. 5: total dissociation/loss of structure. life is constant paranoid delirium. paraphrenia. aggravation, inconsistency in behavior. disorganization, loss of coherency. 6 (generally pretty uncommon to get here except in cases of severe and prolonged mental trauma): Heboidphrenia. loss of original personality. catatonic stupor. catatonic position/rigidity. “spaltung”/fission. I think you just described the mother site :-)
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:18:16 GMT
1: withdrawal [moderate], isolation, superstitious, believes oneself in possession of a sixth sense, recurrent ‘illusions’ (feeling invisible paranormal influences or presence) 2: problems differentiating consensus reality from personal consciousness or group/cult consciousness. integration of fantasy with logic. odd/delirious religious ideas or nihilism. blunt, abrasive, inappropriate manner of relating to others and speaking. 3: adamant defensiveness with delirious topics. appearance of living a hermetic life while maintaining minimal contact with the outside world. deterioration of job performance, personal relationships, and hygiene (as is often seen in cases of mental illness) 4: psychotic break – loss of contact with consensus reality, total immersion in cult ideas. Unable to criticize or notice illusions. Logic is replaced by delirious narrative. 5: total dissociation/loss of structure. life is constant paranoid delirium. paraphrenia. aggravation, inconsistency in behavior. disorganization, loss of coherency. 6 (generally pretty uncommon to get here except in cases of severe and prolonged mental trauma): Heboidphrenia. loss of original personality. catatonic stupor. catatonic position/rigidity. “spaltung”/fission. ^--- GLP in a nutshell (lol)
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:18:25 GMT
And darling if and when your site gets big enough.. the momentum will take it in the same direction
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:18:32 GMT
jynx you owe me a coke LOL
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Post by your faithful servant on Jul 28, 2016 8:18:59 GMT
Think again... A cult is lead by a leader.. in charge of forming opinions.. a strong personality (you) It's 2016.. cults can be on the interwebs nowadays Well...I am not trying to start a cult, if that makes a difference. If you were starting a cult, what would you name it? And what would be some of its rules, motives, principles, goals?
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:19:18 GMT
1: withdrawal [moderate], isolation, superstitious, believes oneself in possession of a sixth sense, recurrent ‘illusions’ (feeling invisible paranormal influences or presence) 2: problems differentiating consensus reality from personal consciousness or group/cult consciousness. integration of fantasy with logic. odd/delirious religious ideas or nihilism. blunt, abrasive, inappropriate manner of relating to others and speaking. 3: adamant defensiveness with delirious topics. appearance of living a hermetic life while maintaining minimal contact with the outside world. deterioration of job performance, personal relationships, and hygiene (as is often seen in cases of mental illness) 4: psychotic break – loss of contact with consensus reality, total immersion in cult ideas. Unable to criticize or notice illusions. Logic is replaced by delirious narrative. 5: total dissociation/loss of structure. life is constant paranoid delirium. paraphrenia. aggravation, inconsistency in behavior. disorganization, loss of coherency. 6 (generally pretty uncommon to get here except in cases of severe and prolonged mental trauma): Heboidphrenia. loss of original personality. catatonic stupor. catatonic position/rigidity. “spaltung”/fission. I think you just described the mother site :-) That's why when I made a thread with all this content and description, they deleted it
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:19:30 GMT
Of course I believe in actual sixth senses, but there you have it by definition. Mythomania brings out a character that replaces the mediocrity of reality with a seductive game intended to attract followers by giving them something new to identify with.
At the more advanced stages of the disorders, the subject is caught ‘between two worlds’, the unreal cult world and that of social reality. He sees himself as the product of ‘a mutation’ which places him apart from other humans while still being human. … Feelings of strangeness and unreality, characteristic of depersonalization disorders, increase.
…Sometimes the disorders manifest only in intermediate states involving just one psychic sector … The cult member thus may be unable to drudge up memories of one element or isolated episode of his life, creating a partial amnesia that generally corresponds to denial of past reality…Anyone who watches the MSM is being programmed by a cult.. Anyone who follows celebrities is being swayed by the cult of personality
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:19:42 GMT
jynx you owe me a coke LOL Deal!
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:20:32 GMT
I think you just described the mother site :-) That's why when I made a thread with all this content and description, they deleted it Of course babes.. the power of a cult.. is people believing it not to be one
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:24:23 GMT
Well...I am not trying to start a cult, if that makes a difference. If you were starting a cult, what would you name it? And what would be some of its rules, motives, principles, goals? I would call it, "The Scions of the Seventh Dawn", or something like that. The principle motive would be to, hmm. To bring spiritual awareness to the forefront of society. To raise the collective consciousness of mankind to a new threshold. To change society so that, instead of jaded cynicism, people were inspired to understand the transpersonal. To make things currently 'occult' mainstream. To, open people's minds to new possibilities so that, instead of just following what they are taught and parroting it, everybody had the capacity to think critically. To make it so that, it was no longer an 'uncool' thing to be a 'smartie pants', and to work with the media and such to make pop culture something that motivated youth towards philosophy, asking questions, creating kids who were self-motivated towards discovering truth, rather than ones who took delight in rejecting educational values that are shoved down their throat in an educational system that lumbers with shitty teachers and a terrible backbone. True education should be the backbone of society. Good education, with actual merit rewarding brilliant teachers. If I had a cult, it would be one which sought to initiate the masses, not set an 'elect' group apart from society and sequester themselves in their self-appointed superiority (ie most cults)
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:28:01 GMT
Oh and beyond everyone else, to bring the 'meaning' back into life - the reason people join cults is because we live in a jaded society which lacks the traditional rituals of our forefathers that made us understand our lives had true *meaning* and we're not just empty vessels acquiring and accruing artificial wealth until we die and nothingness prevails. A good cult brings the worth and value and *substance* back into everyday reality.
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:32:33 GMT
If you were starting a cult, what would you name it? And what would be some of its rules, motives, principles, goals? I would call it, "The Scions of the Seventh Dawn", or something like that. The principle motive would be to, hmm. To bring spiritual awareness to the forefront of society. To raise the collective consciousness of mankind to a new threshold. To change society so that, instead of jaded cynicism, people were inspired to understand the transpersonal. To make things currently 'occult' mainstream. To, open people's minds to new possibilities so that, instead of just following what they are taught and parroting it, everybody had the capacity to think critically. To make it so that, it was no longer an 'uncool' thing to be a 'smartie pants', and to work with the media and such to make pop culture something that motivated youth towards philosophy, asking questions, creating kids who were self-motivated towards discovering truth, rather than ones who took delight in rejecting educational values that are shoved down their throat in an educational system that lumbers with shitty teachers and a terrible backbone. True education should be the backbone of society. Good education, with actual merit rewarding brilliant teachers. If I had a cult, it would be one which sought to initiate the masses, not set an 'elect' group apart from society and sequester themselves in their self-appointed superiority (ie most cults) First off Ark.. The Military has the technology to Raise the Collective Consciousness.. they are just holding back the use of the technology.. because their main concern is protecting the status quo Change Pop Songs to 432hz.. and it would soften the listeners angst.. however.. The Military wants SOLDIERS.. The more angry youth.. The better.. Aggression is encouraged in America It's a Rockefeller Mandate.. they encourage individuals competing (not organization building) because it's splits people's ability to organize into Groups that threaten the Status Quo Pop Stars ARE Status Quo.. that is why The Incentives.. are there for people to strive to become a Rapper, Ball Player or Actor
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:34:24 GMT
Oh and beyond everyone else, to bring the 'meaning' back into life - the reason people join cults is because we live in a jaded society which lacks the traditional rituals of our forefathers that made us understand our lives had true *meaning* and we're not just empty vessels acquiring and accruing artificial wealth until we die and nothingness prevails. A good cult brings the worth and value and *substance* back into everyday reality. What is the True Meaning of Life Ark
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:34:39 GMT
I would call it, "The Scions of the Seventh Dawn", or something like that. The principle motive would be to, hmm. To bring spiritual awareness to the forefront of society. To raise the collective consciousness of mankind to a new threshold. To change society so that, instead of jaded cynicism, people were inspired to understand the transpersonal. To make things currently 'occult' mainstream. To, open people's minds to new possibilities so that, instead of just following what they are taught and parroting it, everybody had the capacity to think critically. To make it so that, it was no longer an 'uncool' thing to be a 'smartie pants', and to work with the media and such to make pop culture something that motivated youth towards philosophy, asking questions, creating kids who were self-motivated towards discovering truth, rather than ones who took delight in rejecting educational values that are shoved down their throat in an educational system that lumbers with shitty teachers and a terrible backbone. True education should be the backbone of society. Good education, with actual merit rewarding brilliant teachers. If I had a cult, it would be one which sought to initiate the masses, not set an 'elect' group apart from society and sequester themselves in their self-appointed superiority (ie most cults) First off Ark.. The Military has the technology to Raise the Collective Consciousness.. they are just holding back the use of the technology.. because their main concern is protecting the status quo Change Pop Songs to 432hz.. and it would soften the listeners angst.. however.. The Military wants SOLDIERS.. The more angry youth.. The better.. Aggressive is encouraged in America It's a Rockefeller Mandate.. they encourage individuals competing (not organization building) because it's splits people's ability to organize into Groups that threaten the Status Quo Pop Stars ARE Status Quo.. that is why The Incentives.. are there for people to strive to become a Rapper, Ball Player or Actor I know...the problem is that the people in power want a lower collective consciousness which is more malleable and rooted in the lizard brain, ie hypothalamus : Feed Fuck Flee or Fight Sadly, a true "Illuminati" (rather than the 'old guard power structure') if it existed, would desire the exact opposite. That's why I reject the power elite which call themselves the Illuminati, I think they are frauds, and their wealth is sand. But there is no arguing with fame, influence and power. Might makes right...in their minds.
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 28, 2016 8:36:05 GMT
Oh and beyond everyone else, to bring the 'meaning' back into life - the reason people join cults is because we live in a jaded society which lacks the traditional rituals of our forefathers that made us understand our lives had true *meaning* and we're not just empty vessels acquiring and accruing artificial wealth until we die and nothingness prevails. A good cult brings the worth and value and *substance* back into everyday reality. What is the True Meaning of Life Ark to perfect the individual soul and use the perfected individual soul (the actualized 'philosopher's stone') to contribute to a cause that transcends the individual self - to add new resolution to the fractal of the infinite absolute and ever-changing
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Post by OYE on Jul 28, 2016 8:37:07 GMT
What is the True Meaning of Life Ark to perfect the individual soul and use the perfected individual soul (the actualized 'philosopher's stone') to contribute to a cause that transcends the individual self - to add new resolution to the fractal of the infinite absolute and ever-changing Define Perfection of the Soul in specific terms
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Post by ben on Jul 28, 2016 8:38:47 GMT
Allright, aside from you two squabbling in here I got this thought while reading the thread:
There are two kinds of self-gratification.
The one where you get praised for stuff you had no power over (i.e. didn't do (like compose a song)) And then there is justified praise for acts you achieved through your own mind or power.
Both feel good, I know this, but only the latter leaves a lasting impression on your mind.
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