Post by Supwidit on Mar 19, 2017 23:49:58 GMT
'but it would be useless to classify these anomalies as "good" vs "evil", the most "evil" has plenty of "good", and the most "good" had plenty of "evil"'
I believe (vastly relatively) everyone 'is good, and has the ability to choose good', but even knowing that, not everyone does. So what do you think of those who choose Evil? To you, what are the worst Evils, and how many of them do you tolerate, and compliment and admire? Or am I mistaken in what you mean, it would be useless to classify them as good vs. evil, yes for what I just said, but do you really believe there is no such thing as difference? "it would be useless to classify the anomalies as good vs evil"..."The most evil"..."the most "evil"", "The most "Evil"",
So are the most "Evil", evil or not? Is Evil Evil or not? What is Evil to you? Would it be good if everyone was Evil? What Evils are unacceptable to you? Lets say everyone is good, with the potential to perform evils. When someone performs an evil, what do you think, what do you do, what should you think, what should you do? Should evil actions be encouraged?
Or (my questions and points are still interesting, and deserving answer, but pardon my tone if this is so) is your entire point: What some people refer to Evil, is not actually objectively Evil? Do you believe anything is or should be objectively Evil? Do you believe there should be Law, strictly enforced? If the thesis of the first sentence of this paragraph is the dealio, what is it that people say is evil, that you are saying is not, that you are saying is really "evil", can you provide a list of those, with the most significant at top, I suppose?
Please, this is not the thread for philosophy. It's for the story.
The difference you're asking about is intention, but talk to me about it somewhere else if you don't mind.
More than fair enough, you can delete that post I made, and this one, and I will copy paste that post you replied to into a newly made thread. Just feel like asking, why would you potentially want your story to potentially contain questionable philosophy, many of the worlds problems are due to questionable philosophy, especially of the sort that say "good" vs "evil", imagine if some young kids read that, and interpreted it as meaning they could be "evil" because there was no such thing? Seeing such in such a suchy light results in percieving what I did as good and right but respectfully and understandably understand your sentiments for the desire of a clutterful lacking, so much obligingly I will oblige.
I do hope you will respond there, as I feel this is an extremely pressing issue, by which a failure to understand could lead to consequences a la grav.
"The difference is intention."
The difference is the different beliefs in law and law enforcement. Intention does certainly play a role. If someone intends to for instance buy someone flowers or chocolates and ends up accidently killing them (maybe they didnt know they were allergic) (random example, lets say two people were playing on a subway train platform, and the one excited to see the other runs towards them and hugs them, knocking them onto the tracks)
Intention certainly plays a role, but why would people, it seems you imply, refer to any of the anomalies as evil? There must be some reason for them to do so, do the anamolies that are called "evil" have good intentions... but do they still do evil... how much? Or their good intentions, are so good, but they produce some evils, but those evils can be overlooked, because they are small compared to the good? So people call them evil, but their intentions are net good, so it doesnt matter that they do evil? The evil they do doesnt count? Lets say they kill people, for fun, but they also have good intentions, the killing people for fun is therefore not evil?
Or you are certain, that those anomolies who are reffered to as evil, do not do any evil (theft, murder, rape, fraud etc.)?
I believe (vastly relatively) everyone 'is good, and has the ability to choose good', but even knowing that, not everyone does. So what do you think of those who choose Evil? To you, what are the worst Evils, and how many of them do you tolerate, and compliment and admire? Or am I mistaken in what you mean, it would be useless to classify them as good vs. evil, yes for what I just said, but do you really believe there is no such thing as difference? "it would be useless to classify the anomalies as good vs evil"..."The most evil"..."the most "evil"", "The most "Evil"",
So are the most "Evil", evil or not? Is Evil Evil or not? What is Evil to you? Would it be good if everyone was Evil? What Evils are unacceptable to you? Lets say everyone is good, with the potential to perform evils. When someone performs an evil, what do you think, what do you do, what should you think, what should you do? Should evil actions be encouraged?
Or (my questions and points are still interesting, and deserving answer, but pardon my tone if this is so) is your entire point: What some people refer to Evil, is not actually objectively Evil? Do you believe anything is or should be objectively Evil? Do you believe there should be Law, strictly enforced? If the thesis of the first sentence of this paragraph is the dealio, what is it that people say is evil, that you are saying is not, that you are saying is really "evil", can you provide a list of those, with the most significant at top, I suppose?
Please, this is not the thread for philosophy. It's for the story.
The difference you're asking about is intention, but talk to me about it somewhere else if you don't mind.
More than fair enough, you can delete that post I made, and this one, and I will copy paste that post you replied to into a newly made thread. Just feel like asking, why would you potentially want your story to potentially contain questionable philosophy, many of the worlds problems are due to questionable philosophy, especially of the sort that say "good" vs "evil", imagine if some young kids read that, and interpreted it as meaning they could be "evil" because there was no such thing? Seeing such in such a suchy light results in percieving what I did as good and right but respectfully and understandably understand your sentiments for the desire of a clutterful lacking, so much obligingly I will oblige.
I do hope you will respond there, as I feel this is an extremely pressing issue, by which a failure to understand could lead to consequences a la grav.
"The difference is intention."
The difference is the different beliefs in law and law enforcement. Intention does certainly play a role. If someone intends to for instance buy someone flowers or chocolates and ends up accidently killing them (maybe they didnt know they were allergic) (random example, lets say two people were playing on a subway train platform, and the one excited to see the other runs towards them and hugs them, knocking them onto the tracks)
Intention certainly plays a role, but why would people, it seems you imply, refer to any of the anomalies as evil? There must be some reason for them to do so, do the anamolies that are called "evil" have good intentions... but do they still do evil... how much? Or their good intentions, are so good, but they produce some evils, but those evils can be overlooked, because they are small compared to the good? So people call them evil, but their intentions are net good, so it doesnt matter that they do evil? The evil they do doesnt count? Lets say they kill people, for fun, but they also have good intentions, the killing people for fun is therefore not evil?
Or you are certain, that those anomolies who are reffered to as evil, do not do any evil (theft, murder, rape, fraud etc.)?