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Post by Zimmer on Jul 20, 2016 4:33:57 GMT
Where there is self-knowledge, there is neither mind nor the senses, nor the tendencies and habits (the concepts and perceptions).
I have attained that supreme state. I have emerged victorious. I have attained liberation (nirvana). I have risen above all relationships with the mind, body and the senses, even as the oil pressed out of the seeds has no relation with the seeds. To me now the mind, body and the senses are playthings.
Purity, total fulfilment of all desires (hence, their absence), friendliness to all, truthfulness, wisdom, tranquillity and blissfulness, sweetness of speech, supreme magnanimity, lustrousness, one-pointedness, realization of cosmic unity, fearlessness, absence of divided-consciousness, non-perversity - these are my constant companions.
Since at all times everything everywhere happens in every manner, in me there is no desire or aversion towards anything, whether pleasant or unpleasant. Since all delusion has come to an end, since the mind has ceased to be and all evil thoughts have vanished, I rest peacefully in my own self.
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Post by Zimmer on Jul 20, 2016 4:39:27 GMT
A quote by Vasistha:
What is liberation, which is said to be the foremost among the objects to be attained, upon attaining which one does not experience sorrow and is not born again? When shall I rest permanently in that state? When will the mental agitations caused by desires and cravings cease? When will I be freed from thoughts like "this I have done" and "this I should do"? When will my mind cease to undergo perversities though living in relationship here, even as the lotus though lying on water is not tainted by it? When will I, with the help of the boat of supreme wisdom, cross to the other shore of liberation?
When will I be able to look upon the diverse activities of people with the playfulness of a child? When will the mind attain utter quiescence? When will the illusory division between the subjective and the objective experiences cease through the experience of the infinite consciousness? When will I be able to behold this concept, known as time, without being involved in it? When will I, living in a cave with a mind in utter tranquility, remain like a rock in a state in which there is no movement of thought at all?
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Post by Caylus Ark on Jul 23, 2016 9:35:19 GMT
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Post by Zimmer on Jul 29, 2016 16:28:52 GMT
To one who thus drinks the nectar of immortality in the shape of self-knowledge, the delights of sense-pleasures become painful. We resort to the company of only those who have attained self-knowledge; the others are donkeys in human garb. Even as elephants move with long strides, the sages who have reached the higher states of consciousness rise to the highest states of consciousness. They have no external help at all and no sun illumines their path: self-knowledge alone is their light. In fact, the sun and the worlds become non-objects of perception to them who have gone beyond the realm of objective perception and knowledge, even as lamps lose their luminosity while the midday sun shines.
The sage of self-knowledge (the knower of truth) is supreme amongst those who are radiant, glorious, strong, great and endowed with other characteristics which are considered marks of excellence. These sages shine in this world like the sun, the fire, the moon, and the stars all put together. On the other hand, they who have not attained self-knowledge are worse than worms and insects.
The ghost of delusion afflicts one only as long as self-knowledge does not arise in him. The ignorant man is for ever sorrowful, though he roams everywhere to get rid of it. He is truly a walking corpse. Only the sage of self-knowledge is a living sentient being. Even as when dense clouds form in the sky the sun's light is veiled, when the mind becomes gross with impurities and ignorance, the light of self-knowledge is veiled.
Therefore, one should abandon craving for pleasures (those that have been experienced in the past and other that have not yet been experienced but for which one craves) and thus gradually weaken the mind by the abandonment of a taste for them. By the cultivation of a false relationship with what is not self, (the body and those related to it such as wife, son, family, etc..) the mind becomes gross. The notions of "I" and "mine" make the mind dense and ignorant. This is further aggravated by old age, sorrow, ambitions, psychological distress, efforts to acquire and to abandon, attachments, greed, lust for wealth and sex and by the enjoyment of sense-pleasures, all of which are based on ignorance and delusion.
-Vasistha
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Post by Zimmer on Jul 29, 2016 18:15:58 GMT
I wish I could just tell you all what I see.
People always say you have to see it for yourself, but its true..
How simple it is, how close it is..
We're on a search for truth, but those who find it can't report back. Why?
Because it ends in a place outside of these rules. You/Me That/This There/Here.
My whole life, all I wanted was to know. The answers, to why I'm here, how I came to be here, and what I'm supposed to do. Once I found it, it wasn't anything like I imagined. We can live and die in ignorance, it isn't hard. Why do you think we live hundreds, thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years before we learn.. Its THAT hard of a lesson.
Now that I've caught a glimpse, I'm torn between prolonging the lesson, and immersing myself in the reality.
I love you all.
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Post by Zimmer on Jul 29, 2016 23:58:23 GMT
"If I keep silent, men think me stupid, if I talk much, how can I meditate on thee?
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Worldly men are so enmeshed in falsehood that I love those who condemn me."
-Nanak
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Post by ben on Jul 30, 2016 0:21:35 GMT
I wish I could just tell you all what I see. People always say you have to see it for yourself, but its true.. How simple it is, how close it is.. We're on a search for truth, but those who find it can't report back. Why? Because it ends in a place outside of these rules. You/Me That/This There/Here. My whole life, all I wanted was to know. The answers, to why I'm here, how I came to be here, and what I'm supposed to do. Once I found it, it wasn't anything like I imagined. We can live and die in ignorance, it isn't hard. Why do you think we live hundreds, thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years before we learn.. Its THAT hard of a lesson. Now that I've caught a glimpse, I'm torn between prolonging the lesson, and immersing myself in the reality. I love you all. hugs Someone once said something like "life is a neverending lesson". I'm sure that if there is more to learn for you, personally, then those teachings will show up along the path of life. Hmm, I hope there is no differentiation between 'reality' and 'life' in your Encyclopedia. Otherwise my statement lacks definition. I'm sure of this though, wherever your journey may take you, your presence there is defined by - here it comes! - destiny. So, before you venture out into a world, packing regrets from the get-go, maybe a lesson or two more can't hurt. The only example I can bring up are my grandparents though, both worked into their high age and only went hiking around the world, when both were almost too old for it. Ahjaja, it's late and sleep is talking. Plus, I can only guess at which it was that gave you all the answers you were looking for. Scratch that, there surely has been some revelation which relates to your current dilemma. But from my point of view, I'd definetly advice against a Dualistic mindset. There is always a third eye option.  |
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Post by Zimmer on Jul 30, 2016 0:53:39 GMT
I wish I could just tell you all what I see. People always say you have to see it for yourself, but its true.. How simple it is, how close it is.. We're on a search for truth, but those who find it can't report back. Why? Because it ends in a place outside of these rules. You/Me That/This There/Here. My whole life, all I wanted was to know. The answers, to why I'm here, how I came to be here, and what I'm supposed to do. Once I found it, it wasn't anything like I imagined. We can live and die in ignorance, it isn't hard. Why do you think we live hundreds, thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years before we learn.. Its THAT hard of a lesson. Now that I've caught a glimpse, I'm torn between prolonging the lesson, and immersing myself in the reality. I love you all. hugs Someone once said something like "life is a neverending lesson". I'm sure that if there is more to learn for you, personally, then those teachings will show up along the path of life. Hmm, I hope there is no differentiation between 'reality' and 'life' in your Encyclopedia. Otherwise my statement lacks definition. I'm sure of this though, wherever your journey may take you, your presence there is defined by - here it comes! - destiny. So, before you venture out into a world, packing regrets from the get-go, maybe a lesson or two more can't hurt. The only example I can bring up are my grandparents though, both worked into their high age and only went hiking around the world, when both were almost too old for it. Ahjaja, it's late and sleep is talking. Plus, I can only guess at which it was that gave you all the answers you were looking for. Scratch that, there surely has been some revelation which relates to your current dilemma. But from my point of view, I'd definetly advice against a Dualistic mindset. There is always a third eye option. You're right. Reality and "life" are synonymous. hugs My life is in a very strange place these days, but the "third option" is always there. Staring me in the face lol. I actually know exactly what I'm suppose to do, I suppose the truth simply caught me off guard. Sometimes I feel like I've fought against destiny my whole life. Feeling like choices were taken out of my hands, feeling cast into a role I never wanted.. Once I realized it was truly me (only me) making these decisions, I had no "other" to shift blame onto, or to feel controlled by. True freedom is frightening. |
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 1, 2016 20:34:48 GMT
One may revolve on the wheel of birth and death for a thousand lifetimes: this will not cease till one has fully mastered the mind and till that mind has come to a state of supreme peace and equanimity. No one in the three worlds, not even the gods or the members of the trinity, can save a man from the torments of a wayward mind.
Hence, O Rama, abandon all the illusory appearances of objective phenomena, whether they appear to be within you or outside you. Contemplate the sole reality of consciousness for the cessation of repeated birth. Taste the pure consciousness (which is, in truth, the very essence of all that exists) by resolutely renouncing objectivity of consciousness (all the concepts and perceptions) and contemplating the changeless consciousness with is infinite. You will surely cross this river of world-appearance and rebirth.
-Vasistha
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 1, 2016 20:39:38 GMT
Lord, I was really overcome with fatigue and I took rest for a brief moment. By your grace, I have attained to the realization in which there is no distinction between contemplation and non-contemplation. You were seen by me for a long time within myself: luckily, you are now seen in front of me.
I have experienced the truth of the infinite consciousness within myself, in which there is no sorrow, no delusion, no concern with dispassion, no desire to abandon the body and no fear of this world-apperance. When the one single reality is known, where is sorrow, where is destruction, what is body, what is world-appearance, what is fear or its absence? I was in that state of consciousness which spontaneously arose in me.
"Oh I am disgusted with this world and I shall abandon it", such thoughts arise only in the ignorant. Only the ignorant think that there is sorrow when there is body and that there is no sorrow once the body is abandoned. "This is pleasure", "this is pain", "this is", "this is not" - only the minds of the ignorant swings like this, not of the wise.
Notions of "I" and the "other" exist only in the minds of the ignorant who have left wisdom far behind. "This is to be acquired" and "this is to be abandoned", such thoughts arise only in the minds of the ignorant. When everything is pervaded by you, where is "another" which can be acquired or abandoned? The entire universe is pervaded by consciousness: what is to be acquired and what abandoned?
I was naturally enquiring of myself in myself, and rested just for a moment without any notions of being or non-being, of acquisition or rejection. I have attained self-knowledge now: and I shall do whatever pleases you. Pray, accept my worshipful adoration.
-Vasistha
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 2, 2016 0:34:00 GMT
A post from my buddy OM on GLP:
"...lead to gold is more about making
common man into something of value.
alchemy uses a short-cut for cumMunion.
You need gold (An illuminated) to change Lead (Unenlightened) back into a gold.
If you are catholic you ask for the corpus cristi (cristalized body)
at a certain moment in the rite.
Roman Catholic Priests are all males, right?
Supposedly in-line descendants of the Peter/Petrus/Rock/Lapis
The pope's office appointed task is to carry all this accumulated spiritual
knowledge of Millenia and transfer it to Nobody. Ponder about that.
"...who makes the mass at your church?"
BethLaHaim // The BreadMaker // The House of Life"
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Now what's interesting is the idea of needing an "illuminate" to help the growth of the "unenlightened". In the context of Yogic teachings, the illuminate would be the idea of "Guru" who takes you from darkness to light. The guru is never simply a person outside of your self, but an aspect of the absolute that guides a student towards "illumination".
Now, a truth is that there is nothing besides the "self". There is nothing besides you, not your ego, but awareness/consciousness itself. You are your own saviour. You are always "gold" or light itself, the devolution into gross matter (lead) is an illusory cycle. The "self" is never truly affected by the swirl of "maya" (or cycles of manifestation).
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 2, 2016 0:43:46 GMT
"Lord Vishnu approached where "------" was seated, and roared aloud "noble one, wake up!" and at the same time blew his conch. Hearing this the demons fell down and the gods rejoiced.
The life force began to vibrate in the crown of "-----""s head. The life force then spread throughout his body. The senses gained energy and they began to apprehend their respective objects. The mind began to function. The nadis began to vibrate. The mind began to become aware of its physical encasing, the body. "-----" was fully awake to his surroundings and gazed upon the Lord.
Lord Vishnu said to "------": Remember, O "-----", your identity as such, and as the ruler of the netherworld. You have nothing whatsoever either to acquire or to reject: arise. You have to remain in this body till the end of this world cycle: I know this as inevitable, as I know the law of this world order. Hence, you have to rule this realm here and now as a sage liberated from all delusion.
The time for cosmic dissolution is not yet: why do you vainly wish to abandon this body? The signs, symptoms and events that naturally precede such natural cosmic dissolution are not yet seen: why do you vainly wish to abandon this body?
I exist. All this world and the ceatures in it exist. Hence, do not think of abandoning your body yet.
He is fit to die who is sunk in ignorance and sorrow. He who grieves, thinking "I am weak, miserable, stupid" etc.. Is fit to die. He who is swayed by countless desires and hopes and he whose mind is restless is fit to die. He who is subject to the pairs of opposites like happiness and unhappiness, who is attached to this body, who is distressed physically and mentally, whose heart has dried up through the fires of lust and anger, is fit to experience death. People regard that as death when one abandons the body!
Living is appropriate to one whose mind is well controlled by his self-knowledge and who is aware of the truth. He should live who does not entertain notions of egoism and who is unattached to anything, who is free from likes and dislikes and has a calm mind, whose mind has reached the state of no-mind. It is proper that he should live who is established in the perception of the truth and who functions here as if playfully, who is inwardly neither elated nor depressed by external events, who is free from the desire to acquire or to reject. He, hearing of whom or listening to whom, people experience great joy - life alone is appropriate to him, and not death.
The Lord continued: The functioning or the existence of the body is known as the state of living, according to the people; and the abandonment of the body in order to get another body is known as death. You are free from these two notions, O "-----": to you what is death and what is life! I was only using the popular notions to explain myself to you: in truth, you neither live nor die. Even though you are in the body, since you do not have the body, you are bodiless. You are the observer which is immaterial intelligence: just as, though air exists in space it is not attached to space, and hence it is free from spatial limitation. Yet, in a manner of speaking you are the body since you experience sensations through the body, even as, in a manner of speaking, space is responsible for the growth of a plant in as much as space does not arrest such growth.
You are enlightened. What is a body or embodiment to you? It is only in the eyes of the ignorant that even your form exists. At all times you are the all, you are the supreme inner light of consciousness: what is body or bodilessness to you and what can you hold or abandon? Whether it is springtime or the day of cosmic dissolution, they are nothing to one who has transcended the notions of being and non-being. For, in all conditions, he is firmly established in self-knowledge. Whether all the beings in the universe live or perish, or they prosper, he remains firmly established in self-knowledge."
-Vasistha
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 2, 2016 1:09:38 GMT
Another great post from OM:
"When western science becomes serious about studying consciousness, methodically (not fear it as woo-woo, or what colleagues and establishment say) & becomes willing to learn from oriental & ancient cultures (that already knew this and expressed them with another languages and visual concepts), and all this is done without prejudgements or religious nor magical embellishments
REAL PROGRESS WILL FOLLOW.
Long ago, knowledge was splited, to y'all's un-benefit:
"science" grabbed reductionist-materialism/physical
"religions" grabbed spirituality/metaphysical
"sex" was confused with love (agape, eros, filia and/or storge)
They don't talk to each other an love to call the other a stupid.
It's on purpose, don;t doubt it... It's the fence around the cattle.
"modern" governments love the taboo against
you knowing who you really are."
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 2, 2016 2:01:20 GMT
Bali asked Sukra: Lord, it is the reflection of your own divine radiance that prompts me to place this problem before you. I have no desire for pleasure; and I wish to learn the truth. Who am I? Who are you? What is this world? Please tell me all this!
Sukra replied: I am on my way to another realm, O Bali: but I shall give you in a few words the very quintessence of wisdom. Consciousness alone exists, consciousness alone is all this, all this is filled with consciousness. I, you, and all this world, are but consciousness. If you are humble and sincere, you will gain everything from what I have said; if not, an attempt at further explanation will be like pouring oblations into a heap of ashes (i.e., useless; the oblations are meaningful only when pure into the sacred fire).
The objectivity (conceptualization) of consciousness is known as bondage and the abandonment of such objectivity is liberation. Consciousness minus such objectivity is the reality of everything: this is the conviction of all philosophies. When you are established in this vision, you will also attain the infinite consciousness. I shall now depart to do the work of the gods; for as long as this body lasts, one shall not abandon appropriate action.
After Sukra left, Bali reflected thus: What my preceptor said to me was indeed correct and appropriate. Surely, all that is, is consciousness and there is naught else. It is when that infinite consciousness entertains the concept "this is sun" that the sun is distinguished from darkness: it is consciousness that distinguishes light from darkness. It is consciousness that cognises earth as earth, the directions in space as such directions and the whole world as the world. If consciousness did not recognize a mountain, would it exist as a mountain?
Consciousness itself is all this: including the senses, the body, the desires that arise in the mind, whatever is within and whatever is outside, space and even changing phenomena. It is indeed on account of that consciousness that I am able to come into contact with the objects and experience them, not because of the body itself. Regardless of the body, I am consciousness, which is the self of the entire universe.
Since consciousness exists one without a second, who is my friend and who is my enemy? Even if the head of the body known as Bali is cut off, does the infinite consciousness lose its head? Even hate and other such qualities are but modifications of consciousness. Hence, again, there is neither hate nor attachment, neither mind nor it's modifications - since the consciousness is infinite and absolutely pure, how can perversions arise in it? Consciousness is not its name, it is but a word! it has no name.
I am the eternal subject free from all object and predicate. I salute that omnipresent consciousness which is free from the tempting concept of objects, and hence internally free. I salute myself which is the consciousness free from the subject-object division, which acts appropriately without division and which is the light which is reflected in all appearances. I am that consciousness in which the craving for experience has ceased. I am limitless like space; I am untouched by happiness, unhappiness and the like. Let them therefore do what they like to me, for I am non-different from them. Movement of energy in one substance is neither lost nor gained when consciousness alone is everything, thoughts or it's expansions do not make that consciousness expand or contract. Hence, I shall continue to be active till I reach absolute quiescence in the self.
-Vasistha
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 2, 2016 4:12:33 GMT
"On the moment one is born one is dying ....To forget this reality the world invents the illusions of life...No matter what one achieves the outcome is the same for all Death...
All this that is call life is meaningless and vain....A task that must be done...
This life is a dream, for only a dream is momentary...
There is nothing to be, nothing to achieve ...only to be...
Billions have come and billions have left...Billions more will be born and they too will be fool by all this once more ....
An endless repetition until one figures out the trick of it all, and than the game to find the exit begins…
If one dies without achieving an understanding of all that this is ...Than an endless cycle of birth and death is initiated....
Death is the key and door to escape, but to do so one must understand the meaning of death and life, before death arrives……
To trap your presence in physical matter and in this hell, they use sex, women and materialism....To entertain you from realizing what you are .....And with this they trap you…
Time is your true currency ....And you only have a short period of time to figure out the truth, to free your self from all this….
This messages are for those souls that will come after me ...Who will be walking the same very lonesome path I have walk... and whose time has come...
Many souls have work throughout thousands of years to reach a culminating to all this ....But the path to our true reality beyond this world, must be walk by each of us individually...."
-Lucy
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 3, 2016 16:27:52 GMT
The mechanics behind Yoga and Alchemy are hidden within just about every esoteric/occult tradition in the world. The stories of the philosophers stone and the holy grail are also related to the goal and practice of this "soul-action" or "refinement". The process for creating the "stone" in alchemy is a process done within the student, not a physical chemical process. It's still very methodical and scientific.
From GLP:
"The occult King Arthur connection:
When he was born, Arthur was taken by Merlin. He was cut from any family bonds. This symbolizes that in order to pursue the path of spirit, one should cut all worldly attachments. Merlin symbolizes his spiritual guide or teacher. He stayed with his spiritual teacher for a long time after he overcame his attachments.
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He eventually overcame the first portion of his lower nature (false ego). This is symbolized by taking the two-edged sword of the truth -- Excalibur -- from the stone of the false ego (raising of the kundalini). By marrying Guinevere, he was unified with his soulmate and through marriage, he purified his sexual relationship.
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He repented for his action and understood that by the misuse of his powers, he had broken a great Law of the spirit and he promised he would never do it again. That is why the Lady (Holy Ghost) of the Lake (consciousness) gave back his sword of truth (Excalibur). He did not have to take it out of the stone any longer. He had already awakened his kundalini. The powers were taken from him only as a test and lesson. When these lessons were learned, God gave him back what was his birthright.
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It was then that the quest for the highest state of consciousness -- The Holy Grail -- or Pure Consciousness, started. The Knights and King Arthur, who were all aiming for the highest, understood that with all their achievements they still had not found the complete truth. After a great struggle they realized that highest state -- The Holy Grail -- is within themselves. To purify and conquer the impurities within was an even greater struggle than the establishment of the Round Table and his kingdom."
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 3, 2016 17:21:49 GMT
Also from GLP:
"It is pretty blatant that the Statue of Liberty is extremely occult, though the symbolism is often misinterpreted. Most know that "the Lady" is modeled after the goddess Juno, wife of Zeus."
"However, what few realize is that Juno is actually the same as the Egyptian goddess Isis. Isis is very important to esoteric occultism and is traditionally the wife of Osiris and the virgin mother of Horus [see Osirian Cycle]. Horus is the rising sun, the disciple. Osiris is the firmament, or all of the knowledge of the universe. Isis is the mystery of mysteries, representing the Causeless Cause. In the Osirian Cycle, Osiris is betrayed and killed, then Horus is born and grows up to become Osiris. The allegory here is that the disciple through esoteric wisdom becomes god."
You see, Isis is a mystery beyond that of the knowledge of all the universe, for all in the universe occurred after that of the Causeless Cause [the FIRST CAUSE].
Summary
Our initiate (Horus Somebody) is reborn as the rising sun after the (alchemical) union between Juno (Isis) and Jupiter (Osiris)."
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See, when you understand the simple base structure (of what "is") you can recognize it in any form. The female aspect is the original cause, and the male aspect is the static absolute. The union of the feminine and masculine is what is achieved through the raising of kundalini. Shakti with Shiva, sun with moon.
This information isn't exclusive to the east or west. Its the inheritance of all humankind.
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Post by River on Aug 3, 2016 18:16:35 GMT
Hello good people  The posts I put in this thread are about the goal of Yoga (union) practice (along with the tools yogi's employ), which is essentially the goal of most spiritual/esoteric/religious systems. All my effort goes towards introducing authentic yoga to people who only know it from the confused, bare-bones, and uninformed schools of yoga that have taken root all over the world. I hate to sound elitist, but it's the reality of the situation. Studying and practicing yoga is my life's work. Practically everything I've done in my life has lead to the work I do now as a teacher. Everything here is only an introduction, I'll give out my email once I'm done in case anyone wishes to learn more about the practices and teachings. These short excerpts are from two of the more knowledgable teachers from the modern age. Most of this isn't online anywhere. I don't intend to disparage anyones practices, or claim that my understanding is any more or less complete than anyone else. One quick note before I begin: Many of you may have heard of the terms Karma yoga, Bhakti yoga, Jnana, Raja, etc.. these are usually thought of as different styles of practice, or different types of yogi's, but in actuality they are "stages" which aspirants pass through on their path. A linear progression, not different types of Yoga. Just a common mistake I see. There are some traditions which identify themselves under specific names, but all have a common root.  Mount Kailash. |
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Post by Zimmer on Aug 3, 2016 19:17:10 GMT
Probably my favourite mountain in this world, I had a pretty powerful vision of it (before I ever heard of, or seen a pic of kailash) years ago. It's a very auspicious place.
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Post by River on Aug 3, 2016 19:31:21 GMT
Yes. I see it on the way to the temple I linked you to. The whole area is his home. Some souls are just drawn to certain geographical areas or geological areas...energy points. In this life, I am very locked in to the river near me. It has healing properties and I regenerate my body/soul there. Ground there too. I went a few weekends ago. I was trying to take pictures and my phone shut itself down until I left. That's how intense it is there. But I was at a strong whirlpool. Those create vortexes, as do tight bends in waterways. If you happen to look on Google Earth in England, you will note that each stone circle or standing stone is around a waterway bend. And certainly always near flowing water. FACT. I spent like two days marking and measuring. NOW...what you will find interesting too...ugh...this vortex topic needs its own thread.
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